Proclaimer:  Mike. There is a difference between being created and being begotten. Creation is that which comes through the Word of God. That exempts the Word of God.

There is no difference – especially when the Hebrew word often translated as “begotten” actually just means “brought forth into existence”.

Also consider that the act of begetting…[Read more]

Mike: On day 1, God created the earth with the sole intent that it would be inhabited by his crowning jewel of creation: mankind. On day 4, God created the sun as one of many lights that He placed in the firmament.

Proclaimer:  There are two options that you are not considering. Planets wander through their galaxies and then get caught up in g…

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See Proclaimer, you either accept the Bible as written, or you become one of those who just pick and choose which scriptures they will accept, and which they will reject.

I accept the Bible as written… all of it.  You are clearly one of the latter group, but the saddest thing is the REASON that you belong to that group.  The godless men who b…[Read more]

And let me add the preceding verse for your consideration…

Joshua 10:11…  As they fled before Israel on the road down from Beth Horon to Azekah, the Lord hurled large hailstones down on them, and more of them died from the hail than were killed by the swords of the Israelites.

How about this part, Proclaimer?  Does the godless “science f…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  That’s a pity Mike. A little foolishness here goes through the whole batch.

It is indeed a pity, Proclaimer.  That’s why I’ll never stop trying to replace the unverified foolishness you spout with scriptural truth.  My hope is that it will be the truth, not the foolishness, that goes through the whole batch.

Joshua 10:12-14…  On th…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  I just wish Mike would give up on science. I do not think that is his calling.

1 Timothy 6:20-21… O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions from science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.

I do my own science, and have found…[Read more]

Gene: When Jesus said , ‘it says you are God’s , that was meant in a possessive sense ,  not a real God being sense.

When Jesus says God called them gods, he was referring to Psalm 82.  In that psalm, we see the account of a time when a bunch of gods were gathered before the Most High God in heaven, and the Most High God passed judgment upon many…[Read more]

Gene:  The number one problem here is that you and others do not understand WHAT THE WORD GOD MEANS.  “THE WORD GOD IS NEVER A REAL PERSON, It “only” means THE ,  “RELATIONSHIP” YOU HAVE,   with something,  “ANYTHING” can be Your GOD. 

That is 100% wrong, Gene.  There are many gods and many lords, both in heaven and on earth.  Every one of…[Read more]

Carmel: GODMAN:

1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come: and he hath given us understanding that we may know the true God, and may be in his true Son.

This is the true God and life eternal.

1 John 5:20…  And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in [Read more]

Gene: And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 

This is the only TRUE GOD that is important to consider along with the Lord Jesus Christ.

This is the same as before Gene… an emphatic statement.  It’s just like this one from Paul…

1 Cor 8:5-6…  For though there be tho…[Read more]

Berean:  Mike

WHAT THE FATHER IS, IN THE BIGINNING
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON WAS ALSO

WHEN WILL YOU UNDERSTAND THIS VERY SIMPLE THING?

I do understand it.  The Father is a spirit being.  The Son he created in the beginning is also a spirit being.  The sons God created after that first one are also spirit beings.

But you try to take it farther tha…[Read more]

Berean:  Yes but Satan does not have IN HIM THE ETERNAL POWER TO CREATE THE UNIVERSE, HE IS A DEPENDENT CREATURE ON GOD FOR HIS SURVIVAL.

Jesus doesn’t have that power independent of his God either.  Jesus is also a creature who is dependent on his God for survival.

Berean: IN THE BIGINNING, CHRIST HIM WAS GOD OF THE SAME SUBSTANCE OF GOD THE F…

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Adam: So where does these Christian concepts of the so called mythical eternal life or eternal salvation stand? These strange ideas of the NT writers no where visible in the Hebrew Bible.

Seems I got my answer in the very next post you made to Gene.  Okay… so no everlasting life.  How then can God’s servant David rule forever?

Adam:  The concept of (individual) resurrection was not developed in the Torah but it is visible in the Tanakh especially in the later books like Daniel.

Thanks for those four scriptures.  It’s interesting to note that the concept was not in the Torah.  But that leads me back to the question of God’s servant David, who will rule forever.  The con…[Read more]

LU:  If not, then is it remotely possible that God asexually reproduced?

Is it remotely possible that on a particular day, God begat a Son for Himself?

Psalm 2:7…  I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Proclaimer:  Men once thought the earth was flat and the stars were lights in a solid dome.

Men thought this because it is not only what they could experience for themselves, but also precisely how God described His own world through Moses.

Proclaimer:  Then we realised we were one planet in a solar system with other planets.

It’s true that a l…[Read more]

Berean:  SINCE GOD IS OMNIPOTENT, WHY THEN MAKE A MIRACLE FOR HIS SON TO CREATE THE UNIVERSE WHEN HE CAN EVERYTHING.
THIS THESIS DOESN’T STAND UP … (that’s my opinion)

THEN IN THE CASE ( This is what I believe)  OR GOD HAS CREATED EVERYTHING BY HIS OMNIPOTENT WORKER, WHY WOULD HE CHOOSE TO ACT SO ????

God often does things through interme…[Read more]

Adam: First you convince your Christian brothers and sisters here, on your so called convictions. Then I will understand your convictions are reasonable and based on truth.

Would you consider it equally fair for an atheist to tell you that once you convince every single Jew on earth to agree with you on every single point of the OT, they will…[Read more]

Adam: Hi brother Gene, sorry I am not for Jesus to be a sacrificial Lamb as God never accepted Human sacrifice on the alter for redemption of sins. In fact it was an abomination to Yahweh.

Scripturally speaking, Yahweh expected every firstborn male human to be sacrificed to Him, but allowed the Israelites to redeem their own children by…[Read more]

Adam:  I am only investigating the so called greater claims of the NT and Christianity by comparing them with their original source the Hebrew scriptures.

I’m curious to how you believe the worldwide and lasting phenomenon of Jesus came to be.

1.  A unknown craftsman from Bethlehem turns 30 and starts going around telling people he is the son o…[Read more]