Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2011,07:19)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 06 2011,11:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2011,10:17)Hi Charles, Mark, and any other “Jesus is God” believer out there.  How about a little “tit for tat” here?  It seems that most of my time on HN is spent refuting the claims of the “Jesus is God” people.  It seems that far less time is sp…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 07 2011,22:01)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 07 2011,10:33)Charles, Humbly speaking like you said, the only way I believe I will totally and deeply understand God is when I die.      Peace and love-Mark  Mark, I agree I think trying to put God into human words, is impossible. I know God is love.I know it too. Love is everything, not…[Read more]

Also I found searching this that it is also prophesied in earlier Scripture about the Almighty, showing they are one.Isaiah 41:4 Who has done this and carried it through, calling forth the generations from the beginning? I, the LORD–with the first of them and with the last–I am…[Read more]

Jesus is never called the “Alpha and Omega”.  That is said only about Jesus' own God.-MIkebollHow can you say this? I don't understand you typing this as much as you read the Bible. He calls himself this several times.——————————————————————————–Revelation 1:17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2011,12:09)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 05 2011,20:46)He said,”When you see me you see the Father”. Straightforward.And I asked you before, Do you think Jesus IS the Father?He is both God and Man. He is both. Those whom he wishes to reveal this to understand this.He is God , and on earth His God was his Father while he was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2011,12:08)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 05 2011,20:34)One last thing, When Jesus claims to be the Alpha and the Omega.Jesus is never called the “Alpha and Omega”.  That is said only about Jesus' own God.Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 05 2011,20:34)How can that be if it is as you say? Wouldn't God have to make Jesus first?God DID…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2011,11:33)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 05 2011,20:03)I asked you if begetting a Son who was NOT God, but the Son OF God was impossible for God. -MikeThis is a pointed question, from a human finite mind. Anything is possible for God. He can manifest himself any way he wants to. Be it a burning bush, three people talking to…[Read more]

Charles, Humbly speaking like you said, the only way I believe I will totally and deeply understand God is when I die. Peace and love-Mark

,so how could it be true what Christ say ??-PierreYou yourself said, it is impossible for God to lie.

Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 06 2011,21:44)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 06 2011,14:34)One last thing, When Jesus claims to be the Alpha and the Omega. with the first and the last, and all things were created through him, how could he be created after God when he was the first with God. Wouldn't God have to be first and then create him if it is how you say?…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2011,14:40)MarkChrist is not God ,if you say he is then Christ is a liar because he says that he is the son of his father,he is the first creation of God and God was not created he is the creator,Christ alway   says if you read scriptures carefuly ,i came to do my father s work,or will,the words I say are the words of…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2011,13:40)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 06 2011,20:21)And if he was born by the power of the SPIRIT, and John saw the SPIRIT rest on him, and GOD IS A SPIRIT, wouldn't that with Jesus own testimony that when you see him you see the Father also testify he is God The Son?MarkGod is spirit being,but his will is also spirit just…[Read more]

One last thing, When Jesus claims to be the Alpha and the Omega. with the first and the last, and all things were created through him, how could he be created after God when he was the first with God. Wouldn't God have to be first and then create him if it is how you say? How is he first with God?1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was…[Read more]

And if he was born by the power of the SPIRIT, and John saw the SPIRIT rest on him, and GOD IS A SPIRIT, wouldn't that with Jesus own testimony that when you see him you see the Father also testify he is God The Son?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2011,12:49)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 05 2011,19:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2011,12:35)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 05 2011,19:05)“God is not, nor has He ever been flesh.'- MikebollYes he has, and his name was Jesus, the word made flesh. The holy one of Israel.Mark, God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2011,12:43)But Mark, If the Apostles worshipped BOTH Jesus AND the One that Jesus himself worshipped, then wouldn't they be guilty of worshipping TWO Gods?Not when you see one you see the other like Jesus himself said. They are one.

I asked you if begetting a Son who was NOT God, but the Son OF God was impossible for God. -MikeThis is a pointed question, from a human finite mind. Anything is possible for God. He can manifest himself any way he wants to. Be it a burning bush, three people talking to Abraham, or Jesus.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2011,12:39)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 05 2011,19:28)Jesus answered, “Philip, I have been with you for a long time.Actually, Jesus said “I am with you for a long time”.  But the English translators, knowing that the MEANING of the Greek was “I HAVE BEEN with you”, translate it accordingly.It is only in John 8:58 that these…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2011,12:35)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 05 2011,19:05)“God is not, nor has He ever been flesh.'- MikebollYes he has, and his name was Jesus, the word made flesh. The holy one of Israel.Mark, God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.Why would your “flesh God” teach us that God is Spirit?  Why…[Read more]

Is anything impossible for God? -Mark No. Is it impossible for God to have begotten a Son unto Himself who is NOT God, but the Son OF GOD?-MikebollYour answer seems contradictory or confusing. Yes or no please. Is anything impossible for God?