It's cool y'all. Either way it's good. We'll soon see which one though. “They will perish” and including the heavens to me means destructed. “worn out”. The next world will be perfect and un-defiled.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 11 2011,11:56)Charles, Jack, and Mark,I have asked each of you a “YES or NO” question in my responses to your posts.  Along with your DIRECT answer to the simple question I've asked you each individually, I have one more very simple line of questioning I would like your DIRECT answers to:Is Jesus Christ the Son OF God, or…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 11 2011,11:40)Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 10 2011,06:46)I agree with you, Jesus was from eternity with God, as stated in John 1:1. “In the beginning” was infinity back, just like in Genisis 1:1.So God created the earth from “infinity back” Mark?  The earth has ALWAYS existed?  YES or NO please?No. The earth has not always e…[Read more]

Charles,Just stopped by to check on you. Hope you are well and blessed. I agree with you, Jesus was from eternity with God, as stated in John 1:1. “In the beginning” was infinity back, just like in Genisis 1:1. the second sentance to John 1:1, “was the word” . Hmmm. the word as far as I know was the scriptures, wrote with the inspiration of the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2011,22:44)Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 10 2011,22:08)Ed.I am not refusing to consider anything. A matter of fact, I agree with you. What you stated is in line with what I think. Back then, the earth was destroyed for the most part by water. In that case, God warned Noah, a rightious man, to prepare for it. He did, and was saved…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2011,02:31)Markwhy did Jesus did not join one of the churches in his time they were about six or seven at that time ,can truth sleep with lies ?can truth sit on the same chair with lies ?NO can any one change those organizations ?? no ,people yes,all others have to be destroyed,it is all about TRUTH OF GOD so no lies as…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 10 2011,10:45)Mark, thanks for the kind words.  Can you tell me where this scripture is in the Bible:  “the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up”?  I agree with you that it seems pretty cut and dry.Pierre, I don't see it as two different creations, but that EVERYTHING is part of THE creation of Go…[Read more]

Ed.I am not refusing to consider anything. A matter of fact, I agree with you. What you stated is in line with what I think. Back then, the earth was destroyed for the most part by water. In that case, God warned Noah, a rightious man, to prepare for it. He did, and was saved by 1-an Ark, and 2-the water. Same for me now. I have also been warned,…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 05 2011,11:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 05 2011,09:37)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 04 2011,10:37)Hi Mike,For the record I agree with the JW's and Irene on this one as well.If you want to discuss this with me at greater length, let me know?It seems Pierre also agrees with you, too.  So “YES”, I would like to discuss this at greater length…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 05 2011,11:07)Hi all. Im not sure either. But heres some verses to think about:Genisis 9:11 – “And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth”.Compare with:2nd Peter 2:5-“They deliberately ignore this…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 09 2011,11:34)Yes Ed,You and Pierre and Irene and Kar and Mark have all taught me in this thread.  So, THANKS GUYS!  I know I have a lot more studying to do on this subject, but for now, I am content with my original understanding.I haven't yet seen any scriptures that would cause me to change my former understanding of <…[Read more]

I'm not JW bashing. I just simply stated what I didn't agree with. Not all JWs are bad. Not wll catholics, lutherans., baptist, etc. , etc. There are many things in my church I pointed out I don't agree with. I also said before that I think all churches are imperfect. I have also been told on here many, many things by others about my church. I…[Read more]

Luke 3:7-18New International Version (NIV) 7 John said to the crowds coming out to be baptized by him, “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up child…[Read more]

1 Thessalonians 5 1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.…[Read more]

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17King James Version (KJV) 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we…[Read more]

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. Hmmm. spoken by Jesus himself. who should I believe? JESUS of course!!

Revelation 21 1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. No sea? How will you live when the sea is gone? First heaven and earth PASSED AWAY? but no, ya'll say it will never pass away(the earth) Hmmmm. which to believe? Ya'll or the bible?

Elements melted. Hmmmmm. To one who knows a little about science and chemistry, The elements appear on a periodic table. You know, O-oxygen, N-nitrogen. O2 is air. H20 is water etc. etc(compounds of elements). In order for these to be melted, that would require ALOT of heat, enough to melt the earth. Nothing would remain, it would be melted, like…[Read more]

That is so funny Shimmer, I was typing that when you posted.

While I'm at it (it's cold and wet outside, and I do NOT want to go to work ), this is what I believe is happening. The United states is Babylon now. complete with a Istar Idol (statue of liberty) and everything.  The evil of materialism and Rock and Roll have been spread around the whole world, and the Godless have gained most of the control of…[Read more]