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    Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 04 2009,13:36)Nick said:Quote Baptism is the new circumcision.Are those under the old covenant circumcised?We should be 'circumcised' according to the NTYou're mistaken Nick. God's people were both physically circumcised and physically baptized under the old covenant. We are both spiritually circumcised and spiritually[Read more]

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    Yes Irene, that was the music going through my mind when I posted the song…… it is a nice song ….

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    I think that there were seas because there were rivers flowing – where would all that water go to if there were not seas.Also in Gen 1:10 it says the dry land is earth and the gathering of the waters is sea.

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    Quote (david @ Feb. 03 2009,16:19)LUKE 16:17“Indeed, IT IS EASIER for heaven and earth to pass away than for one particle of a letter of the Law to go unfulfilled.”PSALM 104:5“He has founded the earth upon its established places; It will not be made to totter to time indefinite, or forever.”ECCLESIASTES 1:4“A generation is going, and a generatio…[Read more]

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    Nick,Is your understanding of when there will be a new physical heaven and a new physical earth – will God destroy all the stars and solar systems that are currently in the heavens and create totally new stars and solar systems (physical heavens) along with a totally new physical earth – that has no sea – just a solid land mass? The whole…[Read more]

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    Joy to the world, the Lord is come!Let earth receive her King;Let every heart prepare Him room,And Heaven and nature sing,And Heaven and nature sing,And Heaven, and Heaven, and nature sing.Joy to the earth, the Savior reigns!Let men their songs employ;While fields and floods, rocks, hills and plainsRepeat the sounding joy,Repeat the sounding…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Feb. 03 2009,13:33)Quote (meerkat @ Feb. 03 2009,10:16)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 03 2009,11:45)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 01 2009,21:38)Marty said:Quote Yes, God has made a promise that if we believe his testimony regarding what he has done for us in the person of His Son and His Christ, and we repent and are baptized in the name of Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (SEEKING @ Feb. 03 2009,13:04)Meerkat,Thank you for being candid. I am striving to find the “love walk.” For a long time I was persuaded that one had to be “right” with perfect doctrine, right dividing, and the usual jargon.My experience in these groups is that their pundits are rude,unkind, judgemental, etc. One day I reallty settled in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 03 2009,11:02)Hi martian, Where?lol

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    Nicks theologyGod created the universe – An angel called Satan rebelled and took one third of the angels with him – has also taken Adam and all of his progeny with him – God is now on the back foot and sent Christ to salvage as many of Adams sons as he could, before God destroys all creation (even those that never even heard of Christ)You need to…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Feb. 03 2009,11:45)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 01 2009,21:38)Marty said:Quote Yes, God has made a promise that if we believe his testimony regarding what he has done for us in the person of His Son and His Christ, and we repent and are baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of our sins, we shall receive the gift of the…[Read more]

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    Quote (SEEKING @ Feb. 03 2009,10:53)Yes, and you could put any name in there you chose. UCG, WWCG, UNITY, ad infinitum. Each believes we have a patent on truth and if you don't see it my way your wrong.Exactly …….Quote But about my question for the one in that environment but not of it -Question – if I do not kill because of my love for…[Read more]

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    However Nick,From what I can see you seem to have YOUR theology all worked out as “the truth” and appear to think that all others are in various stages of deception – all you seem to do is quote scripture quite often taken out of context to support your beliefs and then say THUS SAITH THE LORD. Anyone who does not agree with your beliefs is then…[Read more]

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    Gene,Nick is baiting you, and you rise to the challenge.I agree with you Irene – this back and forth arguing is not about showing Gods love and learning it is about trying to use scripture to support views – IMO Nick is doing the baiting and you Gene is trying to defend, however in your desire to defend your views you can resort to attacking…[Read more]

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    Quote (SEEKING @ Feb. 03 2009,08:58)Question – if I do not kill because of my love for Christ and His love for me, is that worship in Spirit and truth? What about if I do not steal, commit adultery, covet for those same reasons? And if I take communion, go to church, etc. because I love Jesus and appreciate His love for me. If I am compelled by…[Read more]

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    Kerwin,I agree with Gene that there is a difference between love for God and obedience out of love and it being from the heart, which is the love that God wants (worship in spirit and truth) and adherence to physical rites and rules (baptism, communion, church going, do not kill, do not commit adultery) out of fear of punishment (which is what the…[Read more]

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    Well said, lightenup!!

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    meerkat replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 15 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2009,18:17)Marty, I do not think you know the “I” and “me” that I am asking you to identify. Let me try to make it clearer. Who is the “I” and the “me” referred to in verse 16?Isa 48:12-16″Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. 13 “Surely My hand founded the…[Read more]

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    Quote (epistemaniac @ Jan. 31 2009,12:29)meercat, I think that a great deal of prophecy in the Bible can be explained by the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, which I think was an end of an age… for instance, t8 brought up the passages in 2 Pe, if you think of those verses in terms of the destruction of Jerusalem, it explains a lot, not in the…[Read more]

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