Hi MK, These are in the great house of God. Not all enter that placeI disagree, this is not talking about the great house of God, it is talking about us needing to sanctify ourselves to be used for good of God and not be vessels of wrath – to be reborn now, to be judged now. What is flesh is flesh – flesh does not enter the kingdom of God. In Gods…[Read more]

Nick,Are you thinking that if someone who has not believed obtains mercy after their physical death that it take away from your salvation, does it make you think that there is no purpose to your repentance? That you can be rebellious and obtain mercy later – the only thing is if you are called to repentance and don't repent wrath remains until…[Read more]

Yes some are obviously used for good and some for evil and some are a mixture of both, some accept and obey, some rebel. What God uses them for is not a reflection on the ultimate destiny – the climax of Gods plan – that even you say is inscrutible. Rebellion reaps wrath, repentance/obedience obtains mercy.

Nick of the same lump – there are 2 vessels, one for dishonour (rebellious flesh, to be destroyed) corrupible …….. and one for honour and glory, incorruptible

Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 08 2008,23:53)Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 08 2008,16:42)Hi Sis Meerkat,Welcome to this wonderful family of God, Heavennet. I find your thoughts are rational and in line with the scriptures. Do share more from the treasury of God's wisdom. I agree with you and brother Gene on this another myth called 'free will' given to human…[Read more]

Jodi,Agree that the “lake of fire” which is the second death is a place that the works of the devil are destroyed – it was made for the devil and his angels (messengers)  That is what Jesus said and that is what he meant – it is for the destruction of the flesh which is a work of the devil.1 Cor 3:13-131Cr 3:13Every man's work shall be made…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 08 2008,16:42)Hi Sis Meerkat,Welcome to this wonderful family of God, Heavennet. I find your thoughts are rational and in line with the scriptures. Do share more from the treasury of God's wisdom. I agree with you and brother Gene on this another myth called 'free will' given to human beings. God is the potter and we are…[Read more]

94,When you replied to my post of unbelievers minds being blinded you then quoted 1 John saying they chose not to believe because of pleasures of this world  – how does that equate to Jesus saying that he came to release the prisoners, restore sight to the blind, etc The minds of those that are blinded are not just those who for whatever reason…[Read more]

94,You are putting words into Gene's and Jodi's mouth that they have not said.Jesus is the only way to salvation. If Jesus did not die and rise again – nobody could. Jesus was raised and all will be made alive IN CHRIST – each in their own order.The full gospel needs to be preached not half – First is the natural and corruptible, after judgement…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2008,14:00)Hi MK, Mt 10 28`And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna. The second death?1Cr 15:42So also the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:1Cr 15:43It is…[Read more]

94  You make the assumption that when someone says that all will be saved ultimately after wrath and punishment for rebellion – that they are saying that people can continue to sin or that sin is acceptable – but that is not what anyone is saying and is contrary to scripture.The wages of sin is death. Sin is the transgression of the Law. Which…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2008,11:46)Hi MK,God's ways are inscrutable.He is the potter but hopefully our vessels will be found clean and useful.Nick Maybe not so inscrutible Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.Of the same lump He makes a vessel of dishonour and of honourDoes…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Dec. 08 2008,12:08)Hi Gene:You ask:Quote How free is our choice in relation to this passage  2Cr 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. You do know to whom this scripture refers when it…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2008,10:44)Hi mK, God is God. Rom9Nick,Yes,so has God (Yahweh) blinded those who do not believe – the point is they are blind and while blind will not see whatever is put in front of their faces.

I agree ….. his is faithful ……  Abraham received a promise ……….. God will deliver on that promise ….. however it is in Gods time and he raised Jesus 1st  (hence firstfruits.Romans 5:15   But not as the offence, so also the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by gr…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2008,10:31)Hi MK, Consequences? Sure?   Wages of sin = deathChoices plentifulThe gift of God is age-enduring  life  – which does not end when an age ends – what is born of the Spirit of God does not die.Nick,The timing to God is important and he has his ways and time which is not our time and ways.He hasn't created hu…[Read more]

Nick,I have found for some there is a lot of wiggle room and for others there is a lot less wiggle room  – when you take into account  2 Cor 4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not , lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.and Luke 12:47  And tha…[Read more]

Yes God is the God of the living – Jesus is the firstfruits, the firstborn of the dead – Was Abraham raised before the firstfruits?Hebrews 11:13-40Hbr 11:13These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of , and embraced , and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the…[Read more]

942767,free will  –noun 1. free and independent choice; voluntary decision: You took on the responsibility of your own free will.Our choices are influenced by and dependant upon a lot of things:- our upbringing, social influences, peer pressure, depression and abuse among a lot of other things can cloud a persons reasoning.A lot of people do the…[Read more]

Nick,It seems that humans are caught in the middle – we are not robots – we do have our will (Jesus had a will – but he was obedient to the will of GOD unto death) however we do not have free will, we are influenced by good and evil and an overcomer is one who chooses the good and not the bad. Part of being human is the experience of the “tree” of…[Read more]