942767 – Everything is fine until you get to stating that something that is spiritual can die – Jesus says he is the resurrection and the life – he came to give life and that is what resurrection is all about.Give me a scripture that clearly states that spirit which is given of God can die – when our physical body dies our/the spirit goes back…[Read more]

So because this is physical Jerusalem being physically surrounded – we are to physically keep clothed so we are not physically found to be naked? And its physical frogs that come out of physical mouths of the physical beast, false prophet and dragon?The physical fulfillment of the prophecy was fulfilled in 70AD when the city of Jerusalem was…[Read more]

Nick,,Any relation to Rev 16:13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that…[Read more]

You can support any and all opposing theology with scripture taken out of context

Yes, I know – I think it has to do with how many witness scriptures you have and how the relate to the overall plan that God has in mind that he has revealed.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 13 2008,07:02)Hi MKQuote (meerkat @ Dec. 13 2008,06:49)The Holy Spirit is meant to be the leader, we are to follow. The Holy Spirit has come in Jesus name, The scriptures are the litmus test of the truth (test the spirits – not all spirits are of God)I hear this a lot…”test the spirits”, maybe yoiu can shed some…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2008,07:08)Hi not3, Guess what . God is in charge. Kick back and watch Him at work.He guards the Word so we can trust itGod sent His Holy Spirit to guide us, in the bible is wheat and tares, test all things hold fast to what is good

Quote (Not3in1 @ Dec. 13 2008,06:35)Tim,I've come to the same conclusion that you have.However, from time to time, it's important to immerge and offer hope for those who are questioning. It's good for them to get Nick and Keith's stance on obeying every word as it's written (because of all the smart guys who translated it)…..but it's also very…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 12 2008,13:51)Quote (meerkat @ Dec. 12 2008,12:43)Nick,Mandy's faith in Jesus seems strong, her faith in fallible man does not appear strong – she seems to be testing ALL things and holding fast to that is good.Foundation is the bible or Jesus? 1 Cor 1Cr 3:10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a…[Read more]

Nick,The words of God are spirit, he gives HIS Spirit to reveal all truth, his word does not equal the bible, when you read “the word” you read it to mean the bible and that is not the meaning of that word. His words are written down in the bible and his Spirit reveals the meaning of all of his word which are in the bible, however there are mans…[Read more]

WJ,Have you got some support of that – I would be interested in seeing it …….. I'm not going to believe a “he said, she said, there was something that was destroyed so we can't show it to you, just believe that it did exist”.

Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 13 2008,04:58)HI DK,It appears as though you have just started to read the bible with a logical mind.It is these same outrageous descriptions of what God has commanded that has causeda number of us to question the bible. At least to question the picture of God that the bible portrays.To answer your original question, of…[Read more]

The lie is given right at the start, as soon as someone starts asking questions eternal torment is brought up as a means of control, and also the fear of being deceived by “new doctrine” keeps you deceived – the lies started along with the truth very early on, so they can be defended as “the doctrine that was first received” I believe that there…[Read more]

Gene,So the verse is saying that by the very fact that Jesus was flesh was the iniquity and he overcame that by not actually commiting any sin, that is why it is ({if} he commit any iniquity) – there was the real possibility that Jesus could commit sin but he overcame the sin nature he was born with.On another note regarding Satan – I believe…[Read more]

Sorry Nick,Don't want to continue a baptism debate.

Nick, Yes they relate to him bearing our sin – this says that if he should commit iniquity.What scripture is there about Jesus sinlessness??

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 11 2008,12:58)Quote (meerkat @ Dec. 11 2008,07:26)Gene,Thanks for that, things were not quite working in that when does the antichrist (man of sin) step out and Jesus take his place – Jesus is there and the lies are hiding who he really is and when he returns the lies are exposed. Do you think it is only the trinity…[Read more]

Gene,When reading this thread regarding the temptation of Jesus by satan it made me think of this prophecy of the Messiah 2Sa 7:14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men: What is your take on this? Any relation to his temptation and…[Read more]

Georg,Hmmm …….It seems that you have a theory worked out and have scripture to support it but I have found that all opposing theologies can be supported with scripture e.g preterism/futurism, eternal torment/universal salvation, trinity/one God, it just depends on which scriptures you pick vs which you ignore or explain away.What I am looking…[Read more]

Nick I am seeking the truth, how did you come across the belief that the trinity was not correct? Did you originally believe that the trinity was taught in the scriptures?Were you told that you were going against the scripture and told that you needed to defend the truth in scripture of the trinity?