Gene, I have agreed with you on many subjects but I fear you are a bit off track here. The hebrew word for heart means “the authority within”. Our intelect is not where we are supposed to be making decisions. There is a paradine shift that is supposed to happen where we live by the moving of God's breath upon our heart.It is about an attitude of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 27 2009,07:22)Hi M, The Spirit is the Spirit of Grace.Enablement in all things is from the Spirit.I was actually looking for what the spirit is rather then what it does. But thanks nevertheless.

Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 26 2009,10:48)Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 23 2009,11:02)Where are the trinitarians?there not here because they got nothing to stand on just so called scriptures they take out of context and then when you can show the error in that scripture or show it doesn't remotly support there view they will go on and sa,y well thats not…[Read more]

Quote (peace2all @ Nov. 18 2009,14:47)Quote (martian @ Nov. 18 2009,06:00)The issue to can be made clearer in a few simple understandings.The actual meaning of “spirit” in the OT and NT is virtually the same. It means wind or breath. Ruarch in the OT and Pneuma in the NT. In fact the word pneumatic comes from the Greek word. Pneumatic as in mov…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 24 2009,10:55)Martian wrote:Quote To me teaching should produce fruit that changes lives. I am not talking about a mental philosophy to debate. I am talking about fruit like building hope or making the example of Christ clearer.  If a doctrine does not produce fruit it is worthless for anything other mental ascension debate.I…[Read more]

Quote (banana @ Nov. 24 2009,04:37)Quote (martian @ Nov. 23 2009,13:38)I am posting this from another thread. It was my response to a trinitarian.I have posted several scriptures showing that good teaching produces good fruit like the building up of the saints and instruction in righteousness.Your doctrine does not do either.Christ talks all…[Read more]

I am posting this from another thread. It was my response to a trinitarian.I have posted several scriptures showing that good teaching produces good fruit like the building up of the saints and instruction in righteousness.Your doctrine does not do either.Christ talks all through the gospels about judging things and people by their fruits. And yet…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 22 2009,09:50)Quote (martian @ Nov. 22 2009,09:20)I see you did not answer the questions.I can tell you how a non-preexistant Christ benifits me.I look at everything that Christ did. I know that he did them as a human and that gives me hope that I too can overcome temptation. Have the power of God in me to do mighty things. Become…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 22 2009,08:54)Quote (martian @ Nov. 14 2009,04:18)These following two or the most important questions.How does the doctrine of the preexistence help me become more like Christ?How does the doctrine of the Preexistence build hope in my heart?First off, whether he pre-existed or not doesn't change our love for God in any way. It is…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 22 2009,08:41)Quote (martian @ Nov. 22 2009,06:43)One of the  starting places for the dual nature and Trinitarian philosophies is dualismFor those unfamiliar with this term, dualism is a Greek Philosophy that states that there are two realms in our existence. The higher scared spiritual realm and the lower fallen natural…[Read more]

One of the starting places for the dual nature and Trinitarian philosophies is dualismFor those unfamiliar with this term, dualism is a Greek Philosophy that states that there are two realms in our existence. The higher scared spiritual realm and the lower fallen natural Earthly realm. This belief degrades the natural or secular realm as lesser…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 21 2009,13:35)Quote (martian @ Nov. 21 2009,05:10)Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 21 2009,04:32)Quote (martian @ Nov. 21 2009,04:15)Quote (Gene @ Nov. 21 2009,03:45)martian………..i went there but could not find the thread i will try again. Another person who could supply a lot is CTpeace and love to you and…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 21 2009,09:59)Martian wrote:Quote Many think only of the redemption work of Christ as the plan of God. It is certainly part of the plan but just redeeming man from sin is not the end.God does not necessarily share his total plan with us and with that I am content.  I believe that God is still working or creating mankind and…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 21 2009,04:32)Quote (martian @ Nov. 21 2009,04:15)Quote (Gene @ Nov. 21 2009,03:45)martian………..i went there but could not find the thread i will try again. Another person who could supply a lot is CTpeace and love to you and yours……………….geneThis should…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Nov. 21 2009,03:45)martian………..i went there but could not find the thread i will try again. Another person who could supply a lot is CTpeace and love to you and yours……………….geneThis should helphttp://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=42258&st

Gene and 942767,I could use your support on another forum I am engaged in.I have half a dozen philosophers and trinitarians accosting me. The forum name is Christian Forums. you can google it.The main section in question is in the apologetics and the thread name is “is Jesus considered to be God.”Come on in. I would be curious as how you would answer them.

Quote (Gene @ Nov. 20 2009,04:37)Quote (martian @ Nov. 19 2009,06:12)My primary stand centers around the overall plan of God as in clear in scripture. Many think only of the redemption work of Christ as the plan of God. It is certainly part of the plan but just redeeming man from sin is not the end.Adam and Eve were not in need of redemption, so…[Read more]

My primary stand centers around the overall plan of God as in clear in scripture. Many think only of the redemption work of Christ as the plan of God. It is certainly part of the plan but just redeeming man from sin is not the end.Adam and Eve were not in need of redemption, so one must ask what was God’s original plan before the fall? All t…[Read more]

The issue to can be made clearer in a few simple understandings.The actual meaning of “spirit” in the OT and NT is virtually the same. It means wind or breath. Ruarch in the OT and Pneuma in the NT. In fact the word pneumatic comes from the Greek word. Pneumatic as in moving air.If one had an open mind and read these definitions into the text, the…[Read more]

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