Quote (JustAskin @ Mar. 14 2010,01:53)All,To 'come in the flesh' excludes the possibility of a Divine nature co-existing with flesh.JustAskin,Allow me to comment on your above statement. All flesh, from conception/birth, comes with an evil spiritual nature. Thats why Jesus said: “You must be born again” in order to change your evil nature to…[Read more]

Kerwin,Yes, in John 1:1 “Word” (implying a person) does actually mean “word” (the spoken word of God).Nevertheless, as a rule, I capitalize “Word” because in addition to its meaning of the “spoken word” of God, it also says that the “Word was God,” i.e., the meaning of the word “Word” is for both “IT the spoken word” and for “HE God, Yahweh Elo…[Read more]

Allow me to bring this thread back to the original three questions.Was Christ born before creation?No! Christ was born 2000 years ago (probably in 4 B.C.?) The prophetic record of the Old Testament and the record of the birth of Christ in the New Testament is so overwhelming that there is no justification to even ask such a question.Was Christ…[Read more]

There seems to be a great amount of controversy and confusion about the word “firstborn” in many posts. In the Old Testament the word “firstborn” is used over 100 times and refers primarily to the one born first, the oldest child in a family. In the New Testament, the Gospels speak of Mary who gave birth (brought forth) her “firstborn” son, who wa…[Read more]

Allow me to bring this thread back to the original three questions and my answers.Was Christ born before creation?No! Christ was born 2000 years ago (probably in 4 B.C.?) The prophetic record of the Old Testament and the record of the birth of Christ in the New Testament is so overwhelming that there is no justification to even ask such a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Nov. 23 2009,03:45)DB…………Absolutely, Jesus was foreordained (preplanned) before His berth , then at the right time was Born, came into the world by berth , just exactly as we do, and was (Begotten) or Born of GOD at the day He was Baptized in the Jordan By John the Baptist. As the voice of GOD said (this day) i have begotten…[Read more]

Considering the large number of diverse posts on the subject of John 1:1, allow me to comment without addressing anyone’s post specifically.The interpretation of John 1:1 depends on your fundamental theology whether Jesus existed before He was born as Jesus 2000 years ago or not. If your paradigm is preexistence then you will read John 1:1 as: I…[Read more]

Hello Nick, Here are my comments on The Mystery of the “Godhead”! Years ago I came across a booklet by the title: IS JESUS IN THE GODHEAD OR IS THE GODHEAD IN JESUS? written by Gordon Magee. The title was confusing to me because I was not familiar with the word “Godhead.” The obvious meaning of the word “Godhead” (at least to me) was…[Read more]

Hi Stu,Thanks for welcoming me to Heavennet.There were plenty of eyewitnesses to the birth of Christ and what you label hearsay, I accept as the Word of God. Jesus’ chromosome, the WORD (seed, sperm) came from God His Father – who else? There was no magic involved. God impregnated Mary and she gave birth to the Son of God. The mechanism is cal…[Read more]

I agree that Jesus did not exist as Jesus before He was born as Jesus. He did exist prior to His birth as the Word (of God). The idea that Jesus existed as the Son of God from all eternity, and throughout Old Testament time, comes to us from Roman Catholic Church teaching that claims that the second person of the (mystery) trinity always existed.…[Read more]