@NickHassan

Peter identifies Jesus as the stone of stumbling written about in scripture. In the OT scripture referred to, the Lord God calls the Lord of Hosts the stone of stumbling. See that here:

1 Peter 2:4 regarding Jesus as a living stone.

4And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in…[Read more]

@GeneBalthrop

Third time asking this with NO answer.

Please answer the questions I have been asking. Who is identified in the OT  as the Lord of the Sabbath and the Lord of all?

Exodus 31:13 “You are to speak to the people of Israel and say, ‘Above all you shall keep my Sabbaths, for this is a sign between me and you throughout your gene…[Read more]

@GeneBalthrop

Peter identifies Jesus as YHVH of hosts that Isaiah wrote about. The Father identifies Jesus as the YHVH that laid the foundation of the earth and that spread out the heavens with His hands.

You’re problem is not with me but with your lack of understanding these things.

@kerwin

Let’s put the term Godhead aside since we don’t agree on a definition. Obviously we understand things very differently.

I see YHVH defining Himself as the God of gods and the Lord of lords. I assume that you can also see that from this passage here:

Deut 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a…[Read more]

@GeneBalthrop

Gene, the Sabbath is not a human. Jesus identified himself as the Lord of the Sabbath. I understand that there are human lords and they are different than the divine eternal Lord. Jesus IS the divine eternal Lord and is over any created type of Lord and over all creation. The Sabbath is His creation.

The Jews know that YHVH is…[Read more]

@kerwin

Jesus is not only the King of kings but He is the Lord of lords. The OT Jews understood the Lord of the sabbath as YHVH, you realize this right? The OT Jews also understood the Lord of lords as YHVH, you realize this too, correct? The NT identifies the Lord of the sabbath as Jesus and that the Lord of lords as Jesus. So, that means that I…[Read more]

@NickHassan

Nick, actually my “dogma” is scriptural. There is one God and one Lord together as YHVH. Deut 10:17

YHVH says it there.

Jesus tells us Himself, that they are one.

Deuteronomy 10:17

“For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a…[Read more]

@NickHassan

There is one God and one Lord together as YHVH.

@kerwin

Well, your understanding of the term “Godhead” is not the same as mine. I use Godhead to mean those in the position of divine and supreme rule and authority over creation.

@NickHassan

Does Father God have a mind of His own? Does He have a will of His own? Does He have emotions? Does He have wisdom? Does He have power? Does He exist? Does He have a personality? Does He have a soul? Does He have a spirit? Does He have a heavenly body? Does He have knowledge? Does He desire relationship?

@kerwin

I said:

They are two different beings and together they are the one God, YHVH in the fullest sense. YHVH is both, the Father and the Son, the God of gods AND the Lord of lords. One is seen in the OT and NT and one is unseen.

Then you responded with:

The flaw is your reasoning is that it introduces the broken teaching that Jesus is…

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Gene, my question once again to you from July 23rd, please answer:

@GeneBalthrop

you said:

LU….JESUS IS A lord, (adoni) human ruler, not LORD (adonia) the almighty GOD, WHO IS THE “ONLY’ “TRUE” GOD,…

Gene, who in the OT is the Lord of the Sabbath?

Who in the OT is the Lord of all?

Can you answer those two questions?

@t8

No response, from you? I assume that you understand that the Son must exist before He can be begotten?

@NickHassan

1 Cor 6

17But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him.

@GeneBalthrop

you said:

LU….JESUS IS A lord, (adoni) human ruler, not LORD (adonia) the almighty GOD, WHO IS THE “ONLY’ “TRUE” GOD,…

Gene, who in the OT is the Lord of the Sabbath?

Who in the OT is the Lord of all?

Can you answer those two questions?

@kerwin

you said:

If you truly believe that James speaks the truth when he declares that God cannot be tempted then you also truly believe that God is not tempted even as we are and yet Scripture claims was.

Yes, I truly believe that God cannot be tempted, that is why YHVH, as the Lord of lords, had to “empty Himself” and agree to be made lower…[Read more]

Jael,

You are trying to divide the united Spirit of the LORD.  Why would you do that? Do you not claim to have both the Father and the Son in you? Is the Father the only one that is “in” you?

@NickHassan

you said:

Now the Lord is the Spirit. We will come to you.

He who remains in the teachings has both the Father and the Son.

Our fellowship is with the Father and His Son Jesus Christ.

Those who do not have the Spirit of Christ are nothing of his.

Those words are true. The Spirit is a unity of the Father and the Son! They each have…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

Do you believe that the Lord YHVH is the God of gods and the Lord of lords?