Jodi,

You said:

Jesus of Nazareth was the only mortal man begotten of God’s Spirit, who was then SENT to set us at liberty.

Can you show me the phrase “begotten of God’s Spirit” anywhere in the scriptures…anywhere?

Hopeful, LU

Hi Berean,

You said to Gene:

Jesus is called “THE WORD OF GOD” because IT IS FROM THE BEGINNING HE WHICH PRONOUNCES THE CREATIVE WORDS.
“LET THERE BE LIGHT”
he is the FATHER’S CREATING AGENT.

I have a different understanding of who said “let there be Light” on day one. I believe that it was the Father announcing the begetting of the Son who is th…[Read more]

Gene,

What Jesus had within him before he became flesh and dwelt among us and even before anything was made in heaven or on earth, is illustrated in the analogy of the closed mitosis diagram. Man is not a continuation of that process. The only begotten Son of God who was born BEFORE creation and WHO made all things in heaven and on earth BEFORE…[Read more]

t8, Look carefully at my last post on page 684. That should help you see how one is of the other yet both share the same substance.

LU

Gene, you are not a son from God by reproductive process, you are from dirt, we all are. There is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. If you were a son like Jesus, he would not be an only begotten son.

Hi t8,

You asked who is the oldest, the father or the son or are they exactly the same age. I think this diagram will help:

Jodi,

Please describe the qualities of a firstborn lamb at passover.

LU

Hi Jodi,

You said …the Son of God is still a human being, he is the root and offspring of David

As the root, he came before David as in the form of God, as the Son of God, who established the line of David.

As the offspring, he came after David as in the form of man as the Son of Man.

He was both, the Son of God AND the Son of Man. He wasn’t…[Read more]

t8,

Regarding this conversation:

LU: Jesus taught that he was the Son of God and also the giver of eternal life. That alone would be considered “making himself equal with God.”
Human reasoning right there.

For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.

t8: Note the word ‘granted’.

God is the bos…

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Hi Jodi,

Jesus taught that he was the Son of God and also the giver of eternal life. That alone would be considered “making himself equal with God.”

Can you let yourself imagine what would an only biological (speaking in terms of deity biology) son be like? In other words, if God brought forth his very own son asexually, one that was of his own…[Read more]

Thank you Carmel, I hope you had a Happy Resurrection Day as well!

”Who” you asked…who do you think? Read your Bible, 😉

Yes Berean, worthy is the Lamb! Hallelujah! Thank you for the song,

Blessngs,

LU

https://youtu.be/56t4B82nZNY

Happy Resurrection Day everybody, enjoy this song, a favorite of mine, that I want to share with you all.

Revelation 5

11Then I looked, and I heard the voices of many angels and living creatures and elders encircling the throne, and their number was myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands. 12In a loud voice…[Read more]

Ed,

You said: According to Hebrews 11:3 Jesus CANNOT be “The Word” – what say you?

According to Hebrews 11:3, Jesus being the logos of John 1:1 is not addressed one way or the other.

By faith we apprehend that the worlds were framed by word of God,
so that that which is seen should not take its origin from things which appear.

When looki…[Read more]

Hebrews 11:3 says nothing about the logos.

Jodi,

The name of our one God is YHWH, YHWH is two persons as I understand it. One person sent the other person to become flesh and redeem mankind. In order to become flesh that second person had to empty himself of whatever necessary to become man. Once emptied and finished with his mission, he was given back what he emptied himself of.

In…[Read more]

t8,

t8 said: So two identical gods except one is the begetter so edges out the begotten. Otherwise 2 gods. Is that it?

There is only one God alone and that one God is expressed as two persons together, not one person alone…a Father working out all things through his only begotten Son and for the Son who is identical to him in eternal nature,…[Read more]

T8 and Berean,

I do appreciate your thinking through this with me. It’s important.

The end result after asexual reproduction is two identical organisms with substance that is the same age in each. The difference, one beget the other which makes the begetter greater to the begotten. The one who beget is the Father, the one begotten is the son, t…[Read more]

t8

Regarding this:

LU said: t8, if the original living eternal One beget a Son asexually, then that original One manifests Himself as two at the moment the reproductive process began, in a father and a son. Both equally having the eternal nature of the original One.

t8 asks: Are you saying the original God split into two equal parts or are you…

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Gene, do you realize that it is the lens that you have in your glasses that chooses what “by” means. Just because you say the word “by” means such and such doesn’t automatically mean that the writer means the same thing as you say it does. Do you realize that everyone’s lenses are in differing degrees of cloudiness? Do you have an ounce of se…[Read more]