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Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Mike,
You asked: Kathi, who did the apostles pray to in Acts 4? What is his name?
Whatever I told you back then still stands. The cell theory needs to be understood correctly and then you will get a better understanding of Acts 4.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Mike,
The one mind is expressed from two different perspectives as it indwells two different persons as a result of going through the process of asexual reproduction. In the Father, the one mind has the wisdom from the Father’s perspective. In the Son, the one mind has the wisdom from the Son’s perspective. Both the Father and the Son know all…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Mike,
You asked: So then you agree that the Father has power to do anything He wants, with or without the Son… while the Son has only the power and authority given to him by his and our God, Jehovah, right?
The Father and the Son have power to do anything they want and are never without the other.
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
We are given that the One who was the Firstborn over all creation became also, a man is a first begotten of the dead, he is a firstborn of many brethren,
We are given that the One who was the Arm of God in the OT became a man that sits at God’s right hand,
We are given that the One who made all things in heaven and on earth became a man who h…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Jodi,
You said:
you reduce His image to be like that of a single cell!
No, that is not what I have done with the single cell analogy. I have explained how one single cell is expressed as both a father and a son through the asexual process of reproduction. The analogy would help you greatly. Would you like it better if the one single cell…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Jodi,
You said:
ME: I have given this to you a few times now,
And you have seen the original language more than once that has shown you that you are mistranslating. How many times would you like to see this, it’s easy to keep showing you but why do you require it?

Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Jodi said: One does not have truth when they fully IGNORE scripture and don’t apply context, as well as other passages, but instead just see things how they want to see, such is the blind leading the blind.
The pot calling the kettle black?
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Mike,
You said: I’m still wanting to know about the prayer in Acts 4…
I answered that soon after you asked. Go look for it, I’ll wait.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Mike,
You asked: Wait a minute… are you saying that the cell splitting scenario you’re pushing doesn’t stand up to scrutiny?
No, I’m not saying that.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Mike,
You said: But now YOU are also claiming that the Most High God would have no power to do anything if not for His Son? Are you serious?
Nope, not what I said.
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Gene,
You said this: Jesus quoted this, the LORD “OUR” GOD, is “ONE” LORD.
Where is this quote?
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Pilgrim, great post! Interesting about the first words in Genesis.
Good to have you here.
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Here is another passage always misused by Jodi:
isaiah 46
Verse 11
Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.A bird — Cyrus, called a bird for his swiftness, and ravenous for his fierceness, and v…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Hi Gene, many Christians all over the world see the Son who is the wisdom of God in that passage. You have to have a willing heart to have those “eyes.” I realize that you don’t. I’m sure it is partly due to the poor translation that you cling to as well as your denomination that you belong to.
Hopeful, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 6 years ago
Btw, Boomerang, I perceive the Holy Spirit as the united “inner person of both the Father and the Son” that while being in them, can extend from them with omniscient potential.
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 6 years ago
Welcome Boomerang!
I can so relate to your quest. I started seriously seeking the relationship of the Father and Son and Spirit for 28+ years. I have been wrestling with it and I believe God has honored my persistence. I have a recent analogy, a picture of an actual design of asexual begetting in the simplest form. Keep in mind that it is analogy…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Jodi,
Christians all over the world see this passage as referring to the Son being born/begotten/brought forth. This happened before creation.
Proverbs 8
22Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old.
23I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, Before the earth was.
24When there were no depths, I was…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Welcome Pilgrim!
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Jodi and Gene,
Do you think that Jesus walked in the Spirit or was he made to walk in the Spirit?
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Hi Jodi,
Your recent post and actually nearly every post of yours, does not challenge the fact that myself and Christians all over the world believe that Jehovah is more than one person as a unity, where one has the position and true relationship of a father to another who has the position and relationship as his only begotten son. That…[Read more]
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