Seriously Gene,

You asked Berean: Berean, what do you do with the geology of Jesus given in Luke 3:23-38, have you thrown it out of your bible?

First of all, you mean genealogy, not geology. Second of all, Christians all over the world acknowledge the genealogy of Jesus as the son of created man which is different than how he is the only begotten…[Read more]

Hi Pilgrim,

You are right, there are so many fallacies in the teaching of Jodi and Gene. There really seems to be something that is covering their spiritual eyes.

Let’s continue to hope for unity.

God bless, LU

Jodi,

I understand that Jesus is begotten by God from the grave on the day of his resurrection as the Firstborn from the dead so that he will be the firstborn of many brethren according to his flesh as David’s descendant.

When I say that you don’t believe that God has a biological son, I am referring to the monogenes (only begotten) Son who was…[Read more]

Jodi,

You believe in a god that has no true biological son. That is different than the one the Bible teaches.

Jodi,

You said:

Paul says,  “to us there is but ONE God, the Father“.

And who does Paul say is our ONE Lord? Jehovah is not just God but God and Lord.

Jesus says, “I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

When Jesus says “my God, and your God” that equates to OUR God, his and mine together, we share the same God.

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Irenaeus says, regarding the Word of God:

And again Moses tells how the Son of God drew near to hold converse with Abraham: And God appeared unto him by the oak of Mamre in the middle of the day. And looking up with his eyes he beheld, and, lo, three men stood over against him. And he bowed himself down to the earth, and said: Lord, if indeed I…

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Jodi,

You said:

Honestly not trying to be disrespectful but I feel like I am talking to a brick wall.

You are not addressing the POINT given AT ALL.

You want to tell Gene and I that Jesus is not of the tribe of Judah, that he is not a son of Jesse and David, and thus is not an Israelite?

You want to tell us that Jesus is a liar when he said…

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Jodi,

To have the hope that you will receive an inheritance, you have to believe in the Son of God which you clearly do not.

1 John 5 10Whoever believes in the Son of God has this testimony within him; whoever does not believe God has made Him out to be a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given about His Son. 11And…[Read more]

Mike,

Do you realize that you can do nothing apart from the Son? You can’t even exist apart from the Son, not even for a second.

Mike,

You said:

Not necessarily.  I agree that God works very closely with His “right hand man” – as do many leaders.  But angels were sent while Jesus was growing in Mary’s womb, right?  Surely Jesus wasn’t involved in the sending of those angels.  God did a lot of things during Jesus’ time on earth that Jesus wasn’t involved with.  And at any…

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Mike, mike mike,

Did you really just write this: No, God wasn’t a “cell” with one mind who split into two cells with one mind that has two different perspectives.

Didn’t I recently correct you on this. I never said God was a cell. It is an analogy.

Gene,

I am not denying that Jesus quoted the Shema, I am denying that the words in the Shema are according to the translation that you are using. Your translation is wrong.

Look at the difference in these two translations and see that the difference is huge. Only one of them is in alignment with the original see if you can tell me which one that…[Read more]

Mike,

Regarding your post here:

Kathi, in Acts 4 the apostles prayed to someone who created the heavens, the earth, the sea, and everything in them.  In that prayer, they twice identified the Son as “the holy servant OF“ the one to whom they prayed, ie: the holy servant OF the one who created the heavens, the earth, the sea, and everything in t…

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Hi Mike,

Regarding this post:

LU: The one mind is expressed from two different perspectives as it indwells two different persons as a result of going through the process of asexual reproduction.

Mike: What the heck does that even mean?   Are you saying that the Father and Son CURRENTLY share one single mind, and that this one mind contains a…

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Mike,

You said: The difference being that the Son’s power was given to him by the Father, right?

Does “power” mean ability or authority in your use in that question? For instance, in fleshly terms, your son could be every bit as capable to do such and such as you, his father, but without the go ahead from you, he cannot go ahead and do the such a…[Read more]

Jodi said: Mike, I can rightfully ask God for the glory that I had of God before the world was, just as Jesus did.

Jodi would not have the opportunity to ask God for glory of any kind before the world was because she wouldn’t have even existed with or without glory apart from the Son’s existence. If not for the Son none of us would be here lon…[Read more]

Jodi,

You said: Jesse would have never existed if it were not for God’s promise to anoint his son to bring forth righteousness and life.

Let’s just take it all the way to the top why don’t we…The Father would have never existed if it weren’t for the Son.

Jodi, I didn’t concoct closed mitosis, you are giving me too much credit.
That was in God’s imagination. Take it up with Him 😉

Jodi,

As you can see, this Peshitta translation is the better one:

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Yeshua said to him, “The first of all the commandments: ‘Hear Israel, THE LORD JEHOVAH your God, THE LORD JEHOVAH, he is One.’ “

Stick to that one.

Jodi,

You said: Lu, the entire analogy is abhorrent to me and just plain stupid.

I know that it challenges your understanding. It probably helps you to belittle it.

YHWH is ONE there is no other being like Him and never will be.

Yes, YHWH is ONE, a unity.

Jesus IS the image of the invisible God…even to this day.

The root of Jesse caused…[Read more]