Mike,

You said: The apostles CLEARLY prayed to a certain single Sovereign Lord (hence “Lord” and not “Lords”).

I agree, they prayed to the ONE LORD (YHVH) who created all things in heaven and on earth, who is one unity of Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. They emphasized the Son within that unity as the one whose name they performed miracul…[Read more]

Mike,

You said:

John 5:30
I cannot do anything on my own…

John 14:28

…the Father is greater than I.

Mark 13:32

But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Mark 10:40

but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant…

Mike, none of those verses are about Jesus’ own power…[Read more]

Mike,

You said:

Which brings up another point you apparently never consider.  If Jesus IS God, they why come through him to get TO God?  Haven’t we already arrived AT God just by getting to Jesus?  It’s like saying you can have everlasting life if you touch a certain golden doorknob.  There are only two of them in existence.  One is hidden d…

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Mike,

Is that all you need Jesus for…your salvation? Did he not create you? Can you defeat satan without Jesus? Can you have the Holy Spirit within you apart from Jesus? Can you be part of the church apart from Jesus? Are you even held together apart from Jesus?

Btw, Jerusalem is where Jesus became our righteousness, it is where he died and…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You said: Daniel was addressing king Neburchnasser, about other earthly Kings , that had nothing to do with the word God.

Yes, Gene, I’m aware. From what I can tell, Edj was comparing King of kings and Lord of lords in Revelation with the God of gods and the Lord of lords in Deuteronomy but the King of kings part does not compare with the…[Read more]

King of kings in the OT in Greek is found in Daniel 2 for example and is not the same as God of gods:

I hate to burst your bubble but Deuteronomy 10:17 translated in Greek is theos of theos:

Amen to that, Pilgrim!

God bless, LU

Hi Carmel,

Matthew 10:19…good passage and reminder, thank you!

Blessings, LU

Carmel,

You have your own way of looking at the Word, that’s for sure. I don’t even know where to begin to speak to the dimension that you speak on. I’m sorry.

May God bless you,
LU

Hi Carmel,

You said:

1Peter 1:3 Blessed be

THE God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, (A CLEAR REFERENCE TO JESUS CHRIST AS OUR GOD AND FATHER)

Do you believe Jesus is his own father?

Bump for t8

A Paradox:
Jesus is either the Son of God or is God.
If he is both, then he must be the Son of himself.

OR, God is the Father with his Son, not apart from his Son.

t8,

You said to Pilgrim:

My answer was very honest because I truly believe with all my heart that he is the son of God and the Christ. I believe it not only because it is written, but deeply believe it theologically. This impacts how I see many other things.

Jesus is the son of God in what way? Do you think that he is a son biologically born of…[Read more]

t8,

You said: I didn’t look at the thesis and do not need to. Any thesis that changes the Father from being the one true God to being the Father of God, the Son of God, and the Spirit of God is only trying to coax people with smooth words. I have little time for such things. About as much time as I have for the Mormon bible for example.

The t…[Read more]

t8,

Is eternal life knowing the only true God apart from Jesus??

Or, is eternal life knowing the only true God AND Jesus?

You can’t know the only true God apart from Jesus. Therefore knowing the only true God is dependent on knowing Jesus. There is a connection that to have one, you must also have the other. That is two persons to know in order…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

I know that we are in Christ but not as gods abiding in him. I would have to study it more as far as what specific way we are in him. I do know that we are in him like he is our strong tower of protection and we are in his hands, completely dependent on him to cover us with his righteousness, etc.

Carmel,

Jesus is God in us, we are not god in Jesus. Big difference.

BTW, t8, I find it kind of strange that you are so willing to believe that Paul would all of the sudden call satan the “god of this world” when you completely dispute Jesus as being called theos in John 1:1 even when claiming to believe that all things were made by Him.

t8,

Regarding this post:

LU quoting the theses:

In conclusion, then, I submit that the most likely meaning that may be assigned to Paul’s expression o& qeoV” tou~ ai*w~no” is that by it he was referring to the God of Paul’s Judeo- Christian heritage, and not to the devil. This conclusion is to be preferred because it is exegetically sound,…

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