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    Gene,

    You said:

    Lu….I know what you are trying to say,  but , no matter what you say, a Father always premises his Son,  God told Abraham he would be the Father of many nations, “would be”, not that he already was.

    I think what you are trying to say is that the person who will be a father to his future son, will have already existed as a person b…[Read more]

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    Keras,

    Read this:

    Acts 11:27-30

    27Now at this time some prophets came down from Jerusalem to Antioch. 28One of them, named Agabus, stood up and indicated by the Spirit that there would definitely be a severe famine all over the world. And this took place in the reign of Claudius. 29And to the extent that any of the disciples had means, each of…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    You asked:

    Lu…..A father alway exists before his Son does right?

    No, that’s not right. Up until the moment of conception, the one about to be a father is not a father yet unless he has already had his first child.

    One has to have, at the very least, a developing living fetus offspring in existence in order to truly be a father in the…[Read more]

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    Berean and Carmel,

    The ascension that Jesus speaks about when he says that he will raise himself up on the third day, IMO,  is this one:

    John 20:17

    Jesus said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.…[Read more]

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    Hi Keras,

    What about the early church prophet  and his prophecy of a world event in Acts 11:27-30?

    That seems to contradict your above post where you claim this:

    There has not been another real Prophet since Jesus and the Apostles.  There are a few who prophecy over individuals, but none over nations or world events.

     

     

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    Proclaimer

    Here are a couple of videos of Kat Kerr:

     

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    Proclaimer,

    Have you listened to Kat Kerr?

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    Isn’t this an example of a prophecy of a world wide event??

    Acts 11:28-29

    One of them named Agabus stood up and began to indicate by the Spirit that there would certainly be a great famine all over the world. And this took place in the reign of Claudius. And in the proportion that any of the disciples had means, each of them determined to send a…[Read more]

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    Gene,

    1 John 2:23

    Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.

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    Gene,

    What you said here is completely false:

    God the Father would have existed no matter if Jesus did or not .

    God would have existed no matter if the relationship of Father and Son existed or not. He would not have existed as “Father” though.

    Fyi, nothing else would have existed without that which eternally existed becoming the relationship of…[Read more]

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    @Berean

    Yes…your video nailed it on the head. Where can I find that video? That has been my main message on here and this picture is something that I found to most closely represent the notion of something coming from eternal existence that results in both a Father and an offspring, see here:

    7DE6D9BC-833A-4831-9A0C-FC55BF4CF4AE

    Imagine this as a picture of the eternal essence…[Read more]

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    Ed J, it is clear that his answer is “no,” but for some reason you can’t see that.

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    Ed J

    Ed J wrote:

    Hi Berean, your words don’t add up.

    Are you claiming: that Jesus fathered Himself?

    Are you claiming to not comprehend the idea of more than one member in the unity of YHVH which is Father, Son , and Spirit?

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    Gene,

    Jesus didn’t say that he wasn’t good. In fact, he basically said that he was so good that one should sell all their posessions and follow HIM as he leads them to eternal life.

    I want to follow Jesus like that.

    Blessings, LU

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    Berean,

    You said:

    Since man could not, by human force, resist
    to the mighty temptations of Satan, Jesus offered himself willingly to
    undertake this work, assuming the burden of man, and
    to defeat the power of appetite in its place.

    I’m so thankful that Jesus emptied himself of the glory that he had before he was brought forth into the womb of…[Read more]

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    Hi Danny Dabbs, I have continually heard strange things about the Freemasons. I am not at all surprised by what you say about them.

    The Father and Son are both wonderful and loving and I think of them as perfectly united and interdependent on each other together with their Holy Spirit.

    Interdependence does not show weakness but instead brings a…[Read more]

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    @Danny Dabbs

    Do you agree with Berean’s conclusion here (see his long post on this page):

    Conclusion

    FATHER AND SON SHARE THE SAME DIVINE NAME : YHVH

    Yeshua Hamashiach IS THE DIVINO/HUMAN NAME OF THE SON OF GOD.

    THIS IS THAT I BELEIVE

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    @Berean

    You said:

    Conclusion

    FATHER AND SON SHARE THE SAME DIVINE NAME : YHVH

    Yeshua Hamashiach IS THE DIVINO/HUMAN NAME OF THE SON OF GOD.

    THIS IS THAT I BELEIVE

    Amen and glory to YHVH, I agree with your conclusion! Btw, thanks for the peaceful music.

    LU

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    @Proclaimer

    Welcome back, I hope you had a nice break.

    I’m pasting an unanswered post of mine to you, asked originally on January 9th or thereabouts.

    Hebrews 1

    O Lord,

    You laid the foundations of the earth,

    and the heavens are the work of Your hands.

    11They will perish, but You remain;

    they will all wear out like a garment.

    12You will r…

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    All praise to Yahweh the Father in Heaven
    and to His Son Jesus Christ/Yeshua Hamashiach. Amen.

    Agree Danny Dabbs!

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