Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi All,
With a little help from God, I believe that the baptism at Jordon was a type of the baptism of the holy spirit at and after Pentecost. The apostles had received the holy spirit at John 20:22. They received the holy spirit with power at Pentecost. Christ had the holy spirit before Jordan. He receive power of the holy spirit at Jordan.
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
That is, our sins forgiven and paid for.
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
P.S. The apostles had received the holy spirit after Christ’s resurrection but not with the sacrifice of Christ in it and with power until Pentecost (John 20:22). Christ, a human, was now part of the holy spirit in heart and mind. Therefore, we humans greatly benefit from this in understanding, among other greater things as having our sins fo…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi Ed
You: Are you suggesting that the Holy Spirit that descended on Christ
at the Jordan river was (according to you) not the Spirit of God?Me: Of course not. I had never said that. I am a little perturbed about people on this form accusing me of saying things I have never stated. I have tried my best to explain myself. I have said imp…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
He All,
Forgot to add link from the above passage reprinted below with the link.
Me: Click on the link below. The click on 373 above “they shall rest”:
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/6-11.htm
Definition
to give rest, give intermission from labor, by impl. refresh
NASB Translation
give…rest (1), refresh (1), refre…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi All,
Rev 16:4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. 5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. 6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic How the Lake of Fire and the Second Death Brings Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago
Here is a good website on :
1. Tartarus
2. Gehenna
3. Hades
4. Lake of Fire
5. Eonian Judgment
6. What the Greek Church fathers believed
The author can explain it better than I
http://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teachings/books/the-judgments-of-the-divine-law/chapter-4-the-lake-of-fire/Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi All,
The mind of Christ had only the spirit of God in his heart and mind, not a human spirit. The Messiah, a human, was the son of God from birth.
Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi All,
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Me: Click on the link below: Then click on 1096 on the second line.
https://biblehub.com/lexicon/john/1-14.htmNASB Translation
accomplished (1), appeared (3), arise (1),…[Read more]Truthcomber replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi All,
Matt 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Me: Christ asked a very simple…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi Edj
I believe all good except 2.
Roman 8:9 (a) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. (b) Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Me: Verse 9b is a continuation of thought from 8b. The spirit of Christ is the spirit of God after Christ existed.
Eph 4:3…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi All,
Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day (this time) shalt thou be with me in paradise.
2 Cor 12:1 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body,…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi All,
Life giving spirit. Sprit can exist without a body
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing…
Me: A spirit can live without a body.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
1 Cor 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living s…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi All,
1 Cor 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.To every seed a body.
Me: Seed is of the spirit as we shall see below.
Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi All,
John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
Me: This pertains to when Christ was resurrected from the dead, not at the time…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi All,
When did Christ Come back to the apostles?
Acts 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. 5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
Me:…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 2 months ago
Hi All,
1 Cor 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
Me: “own order” means at the individual’s unique time, not at a general resurrection. So, this cannot mean at the time Christ returns and gives all the saints of this royal and priestly generation a new body. This perta…[Read more]
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Anthony,
You wrote:
You said the Father will be here also . Father God won’t be here till the only begotten Son turns the kingdom over to His Father, God.
Just before the new heaven and Earth. At that time also The only begotten Son comes under subjection to Father God.Me: Very true.
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 3 months ago
Anyway,
I need to run now.
Truthcomber replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 3 months ago
Hi Jodi,
You wrote: First off there is nothing in Acts 2 that says people received an immortal mind of Christ when the Holy Spirit came giving them gifts of the Spirit at Pentecost.
Me: We receive an immortal mind like Christ, not his immortal mind.
You: Our MINDS exist in our bodies, it exists in our BRAIN of which is an organ in our body that…[Read more]
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