Gene:

Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Me: The seed of the devil is in our flesh. It is the cause of our physical deaths.  It will not stand.

Romans 7:24 O wretched…[Read more]

Gene:

You:

YOU HAVEN’T PRODUCE ANY SCRIPTURE THAT SHOWS JESUS IS NOW A SPIRIT BEING, of anykind, EVEN IF THE FULLNESS OF GOD DWELLS “IN” HIM. He does have a life giving spirit in him, but he is a human being and will return as such, Just as he said ” for when THE SON OF MAN comes will he find FAITH ON the earth.” Many other scriptures also back…[Read more]

Gene,

You: Who said you said, spirits were drifting around?, what I said was that Jesus said that, when an unclean spirit leaves a man it goes about in “arid” places seeking rest. That what Jesus SAID , NOT ME OR YOU.

Me: Why even bring that up unless you inferred that I meant that those resurrected spiritually were drifting around like the dem…[Read more]

Gene,

Matt 17:2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.

New American Standard Bible
Rev 22:16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the…[Read more]

Hi Nick,

You got that absolutely right.

Jodi:

I have transfer most if not all of my post on this and the prior page to: “One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism”  Please respond there not to keep jumping back and forth.    Nether the less, we have gone over all your last comment to me two posts up and I do not wish to go over this unfruitfully again.  If you can reconcile  1 Corinthians 15:5…[Read more]

Gene,

You: SPIRITS are not “bodies” bodies are visible objects, SPIRIT are what inhabit bodies,

Me: Where did I ever say spirits are bodies? I always said bodies are revealed through the spirit.

I said on this page on NOVEMBER 4, 2018 AT 7:49 AM
“We are given new bodies of the seed (holy spirit) in us.”

You: and no scripture say Jesus dumped…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

True, but the plurality of God is a Hebrew idiom that shows his majesty as explained above.  Yes, their are seven aspects to the one  holy spirit but only one mind of God.

Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteous…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You wrote: if our bodies were not needed, then there would be no need of a resurrection of them at all.

Me:

Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism (baptism of the spirit) into death: that like as Christ was raised up from…[Read more]

Gene:

You: Now how was Jesus raised, was it with a different “kind or type” of body, NO, it was not, but was the same body that he had that became uncoruptible and immortal. His same existing body went from mortal to immortal. The same thing applies to those who have died they will be given new flesh and bone bodies that can live forever, and…[Read more]

Hi All,

This part is a repeat:

Mark 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: 33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Again You,

You are not finding hidden truth in scripture when you take a line out of context and have it mean something that it does not mean, it is especially not the truth when it so greatly CONTRADICTS other passages. TC people are BLIND to the truth, when they are blind they create superstitions, when they are blind they invent…[Read more]

Gene.

Like Jodi, your doctrine is not based on all scripture:  You have glaringly not considered  Cor 12:2-3, 2 Cor 5:1-2 and 2 Cor 5:8 and how it relates to 1 Thes 4 and with 1 Cor

Hi Gene,

You:

Truthcomber. …..The change Paul is talking about is not a different “kind” of body ,but our same bodies are changed from “mortal” to “inmortal”, just as he said, “for this corruptible must put “ON” incoruption, so whats being changed?, our present bodies from (coruption to incoruption) where does it say the body itself is done away…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: 1 Corinthians 15:51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the m…[Read more]

Hi Jodi

You: NOPE, the mystery that we are given by Paul, is that not all men will die, those at Christ’s return will NOT, they will be changed. It is appointed for all men to die once, as we are all born MORTALS, but the mystery that Paul gives us is that those at Christ’s return who are his that are still alive do not end up dying, they end up…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You:

I have spoken about 2 Corinthians 5 extensively. The verses are clear if you apply Paul’s words with Paul’s words. Romans 7 in particular makes it clear. Paul despised his own mortal body, he desired to have an immortal body. He knew that if he died and his body decayed (dissolved) he would rise from the Me: I have rec…[Read more]

You Quoted me:

You gave 2 Corinthians 12 and then said,
“a. Man caught up into heaven with a body
b. Man caught up into heaven without a body.
A man caught up into heaven without a body occurs after Pentecost after death. Death (Heb 9:27) occurs for some before Christ returns and for some when Christ returns (those alive at that time).”

You: I s…[Read more]

Hi Jodi:

You:

You are not finding hidden truth in scripture when you take a line out of context and have it mean something that it does not mean, it is especially not the truth when it so greatly CONTRADICTS other passages. TC people are BLIND to the truth, when they are blind they create superstitions, when they are blind they invent their own…[Read more]