Nick,

I said the ones who killed Christ knew that the messiah claimed he was the son of God and thus God.  I did not say I align myself with all their thinking.  They knew what Christ said, something that you and Gene do not understand.

Gene:

You: WHAT ABOUT THIS SCRIPTURE , “the son of man can do “NOTHING” of himself, the Father who is in him “HE” doth the works.”.

John 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. 18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, mak…[Read more]

Gene:

You: BUT YOU FAIL TO EMPHASIS IN ITALICS , “TO THE GLORY OF GOD”,

Phil 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glo…[Read more]

Gene:

You: As I said you are using trinitarian reasonings, to SEPERATE Jesus from his human brothers and sisters.
You try to make the word “master” as meaning JESUS IS DIFFERENT THEN WE ARE. Like because he is a master or teacher we should worship him, as a God some kind. Did not Jesus say “it is enough the student be as the teach…[Read more]

Gene:

You: TC…..You completely engorged the scripture I quoted, and changed subject matter . I quoted scriptures where Jesus plainly said he was going to his father and our father, his God, and our God. Does that sound to you that Jesus was in anyway seperating himself from the rest of his brothers and sisters?

Me: Let someone with a little m…[Read more]

Gene:

You: TC…..So Jesus lied when he said we should pray “Our Father” which art in heaven? And when Jesus said to them I am going to my father “and” Your father, my God “and” Your God. That was before Pentecost when those words were spoken, there are even more “Your Father who is in heaven knows you have need of these things”, and even more, bu…[Read more]

Hi T8,

You:

The Ordinary Jesus Brigade still has a serious problem. They have failed to float their proposition that Jesus had not the Spirit of God and was not the Christ, until he reached near the end of his life. They still lack true understanding of Jesus. They have failed to prove their proposition which is that Jesus was not the…[Read more]

Tell me Gene:

Do you worship Christ?

Gene:

Gene:

You: Do you understand that Jesus was a son of God as Adam was, because God supplied his male DNA, into the womb of Mary?

Me: He had a human tent with his life here on earth. His human DNA was from the seed of David through his mother Mary. His spirit mind was the Word of God with the heart of God (Jn 1:1,14) His spirit was the holy…[Read more]

Gene,

You: Tc…..Your the one presenting Jesus as a God, not me, and where it says ” I will declare your name unto my brethren ” that clearly shows he is Identifying himself with us as a human being, not some kind of “morphed” preexisting person of some kind. You and all trenitarians preach a preexisting Jesus, not Me. You turn to them to get yo…[Read more]

Gene:

So why does Christ worship God if he is God.   There is one God, himself and himself expressed. It is analogous to we having a conscious and subconscious mind.  The conscious mind is inferior to the conscious but both  work together as one.   The humanity of the seed of David  is bonded with the church as one body.  Thus as a human unit…[Read more]

Gene:

Me:

2 Cor 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Me: Got that, the Lord is spirit which can be expressed as a glorious light…[Read more]

Gene:

You: And when Jesus said to them I am going to my father “and” Your father, my God “and” Your God. That was before Pentecost when those words were spoken, there are even more “Your Father who is in heaven knows you have need of these things”, and even more, but you are desperate to make Jesus completely different from his brothers an…[Read more]

Gene:

You:

TC…..So Jesus lied when he said we should pray “Our Father” which art in heaven? And where the bible say “AN ADAM THE “SON” OF GOD’.

Me: Gene, do you see any other human in directly or in reference to the OT that was called the son of God. Ever wonder why? Adam is called the son of God because he descended from no one but came into…[Read more]

Gene:

You:

TC…..following you logic , should we say that the prophets were also the same as Jesus? Because scripture say clearly THAT IN TIMES PAST GOD SPOKE TO US “by” THE PROPHETS, so tell us were they also the word of GOD, themselves as you say Jesus was ?
Seening God spoke “BY” them also.
Heb 1:1-2…… God, who at Sunday times and in divers…[Read more]

except for John 1:14, all phrases and words in the parenthesis are mine.

Hi Jodi,

You: Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
Did the baby save you from your sins t8?
Or
Did the baby grow and BECOME your savior upon being made perfect through suffering and dying on the cross for your sins?
Simple question, please answer which one is true.

Me: It is not good to…[Read more]

You have not reconciled the scriptures, not to any reasonable degree. Further, I do not wish further to discuss this matter with you. Believe what you want. I do not intent to respond to you anymore on this matter.

2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: 3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. 4 For we that are…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

1 Thes 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall (appear) first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
2…[Read more]