Gene:

You:  You flip flop all OVER THE PLACE, mixing scriptures trying to make them meet you understandings.

Me: No Gene, I do not flip flop all over the place. Give me an example. I am very consistent. You just lack understanding. It is  simple as that.

You: Jesus was indeed a born human being, the “only” human being father by God direc…[Read more]

Hi All,

Christ did not need to bap;tized to receive the holy spirit. He had it as conception being bonded as one with God through the Word in him.

New American Standard Bible
Col 2:9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of…[Read more]

Hi All,

Me:

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G4983&t=KJV
Romans 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Rev 12:5 And she…[Read more]

Hi All,

Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from…[Read more]

Hi All,

he only begotten son of God
http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/begotten.htm
Quote:
“There are only a few places in the New Testament where you will find the words, “The only begotten Son of God.” I was surprised when doing this study to find the word “only begotten son” when used in reference to Jesus only occurs twice in the entire Bi…[Read more]

It seems the word of God is gobbledegook to you.  Turkeys gobble, I bet you do.

You are a gnostic

Hi All,

One more comment:

The Word is the exact expression of God Almighty.  God does not change.  The Word did when he bonded as one with Yashua.  This was explained above

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father al…[Read more]

Hi All,

Gene: TC…..I AM NOT A MORMON, nor do I practice their attend their churches. I had a study once with them and proved them wrong to the point they could not answer my questions to them even their elders couldn’t, they say they are different them the rest of christanity, but use a bible that has only a third of exact copies of our bib…[Read more]

Hi All,

Gene: You believe Jesus is the word of God, he is not! He has that title because he spoke the Fathers words to us. Or haven’t you ever read this, “the words I am telling you , ARE (NOT) my words , but the Words OF HIM WHO SENT ME. , have you thrown that part out of you bibles you quote from? JESUS AND THE WORD OF GOD ARE NOT THE SAME THI…[Read more]

Hi All,

Gene: You said,,,,, they did not preach JESUS AS A GOD, that is a lie, because they believed he was a God sent out from the pelora of the God’s to correct what the God of creation did, they also taught that Jesus was only desguised as a man but in fact was a God sent from the pelora of the Gods. That is a fact, I can show you that t…[Read more]

click on it, and it then disappears

Notification bubble does not work for me

Gene:

Me: Your emphasis and fetishism on the physical body as one of the pillars of salvation is based on Mormonism.

https://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Physical_Body

Quote: “Together, the physical body and the spirit constitute the soul (D&C 88:15). The salvation of the soul requires perfection of both body and spirit  God the Father and Jesus Ch…[Read more]

Gene:

You: Nick is right your teachings are more in line with what the first century gnostic’s taught, because they as you believed in the prexistence of JESUS, DO YOU NOT BELIEVE THAT ALSO?, also the believed JESUS did not need to be baptized after his appearance on this earth, because he was born a GOD, SO IN THAT WAY THEY DENIED his f…[Read more]

Me: 

3.2. Adoptionism (The True God Adopted Jesus
“The very first Christians, the Ebionites16, Nazorenes, Gnostic Christians and others, were all adoptionists. In accordance with the first hundred years of Christian belief and with the oldest manuscripts of the Bible,

Gene:

You: TC…..Nick was not speaking of the adoptionest gnostics, he was speaking g of the Gnostic’s of the apostles day. AND HE IS RIGHT, they were the original one to caused the church to go into idolatry, because the preached Jesus as a God from the pelora of the Gods, they denied the baptizm of Jesus, because they believed he was a God alr…[Read more]

Nick:

You:

Yes those led by the Spirit do not face judgement but have already been raised
and have passed over from death to life by the time of the judgement in Matt 25.31
Me: True, why then did you make the statement:

All are raised to face judgment.

I am not saying Nick believes everything that Adoptionist Gnostics believed.  I am saying that what you just quoted is a main tenet of Adoptionist Gnosticism and also of what Nick believes.

Hi Nick,

You:

All are raised to face judgement.
Only those who find mercy are saved.
That mercy is specified in Matthew 25.

Stay within the revelation of our God.

Me: The judgment of the saints at the first resurrection is the bestowing of their reward, not the judgment to see if they are rewarded or punished. The later judgment comes after…[Read more]