Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2007,17:41)Hi Tim2, So God was not equal with God? I do not understand.Where is your scriptural support that tells us Jesus is NOT God?I mean, I can show you where there were those who believed he was saying he was God, can you show me, in any instance, where he denied it?? And don't even start quoting “Son of God”…[Read more]

Well, I did ask you to clarify, and that was the verse you focussed on. I see now you have a “replacement” axe to grind? I share your lack of admiration for the NIV, but the KJV makes the same reference, just not in the exact same phrasing;Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,12:49)And there is no escaping that you hold your interpretations and I have mine. Who is right? You? Of course.Thank you….I agree.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 14 2007,13:05)lamontre >.. I would like to address this issue of miracles with you ,first where did Jesus ever say he did the miracles himself you won't find it it the scriptures, but he said he could do nothing of himself but it was the Father who was in him who does the work not him and a good example of this point…[Read more]

Quote In other words, you believe that “perfect obedience” explains any aspect of Jesus' earthly mission that seem less than God-like.Actually, there is nothing in Jesus earthly mission that is “less than God-like”. That is just a characterization on your part, and is becomes no more than a straw-man.Quote It's an interesting point of view, but it…[Read more]

Quote This post is in response to the first post on predestination.Did Jesus die for all? If He did not, then maybe John 3:16 should read “For God so loved some of the people in the world” It is exclusive none-the-less, your only quoting the part that supports your assertion.Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,09:51)Quote (lamontre @ June 14 2007,07:56)Thank you for your encouraging words WJ.Joh 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. Joh 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Joh 5:23 That all men should honor…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 14 2007,08:10)Hi LAM, Indeed all the prophets of God should have been honoured for their roles as vessels for God, but they, along with the Son of God, were murdered because men hate our God.Lk 20″ 9Then began he to speak to the people this parable; A certain man planted a vineyard, and let it forth to husbandmen, and…[Read more]

Thank you for your encouraging words WJ.Joh 5:21  For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. Joh 5:22  For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Joh 5:23  That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son ho…[Read more]

Election is best defined here (I believe someone already quoted it);1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. As regards Israel……Rom 9:11 (For the children being not yet born,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2007,15:14)Hi LAM, In Whose strength? His own?Zech4″ 6Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.”Perfect obedience would entail complete reliance…that's the point.But perfect obedience as God…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 12 2007,13:33)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 12 2007,09:39)Agreed.He was born under law, but somehow that law did not apply to him – he was above the law.He COULD have been above the law, as the author of it. Yet He chose perfect obedience to the Father for a great cause. Quote He spoke a new relationship to God that even seemed…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 12 2007,10:51)I can see that this discussion is quickly becoming a lesson in bad communication. Let's cut through all the smoke screens by simply answering the questions that were asked of us – nothing more nothing less. I will start by answering the questions in your latest post.Well Ok, but mischaracterizing my posts…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 12 2007,09:39)Quote (lamontre @ June 12 2007,08:27)And if God has a son He is  in nature?Each after his own kind, is I believe God's law.LM,Regarding “each after his own kind” -God/God = God (not possible because there is only One God)Mary/God = Divine ManFully both/no mix/fake conception/non scriptural = incarnation…..God…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2007,08:53)HiLAM, So your God can die? Christ died. But he is the Son of God.Nice, I answered that silly objection above. Got anything scriptural to add to the discussion?

Ahhh, finally….I will skip the irrelevent introduction and get right to the meat of the discussion;Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 12 2007,05:32)First, I note that this response (Phil 2:5-8) does not specifically address the question that I asked.Of course it does. You just don't like what it says.Quote There's no point in quoting the question if your…[Read more]

I think 942767 is on to something. And the NIV makes it much clearer IMO;Daniel 9:26-27 (New International Version)New International Version (NIV)Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society26 After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,15:09)Hi LAM,You said”I reject only your interpretation.” I quoted the verse but you assumed the interpretation.The Son is the God given source of Life for men and that Spirit Life is found in Him.He submitted fully and was given all grace to be an overcomer. That grace is yet available to all in him.You and I and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,14:47)Hi, Those who would make salvation a black and white affair do not know our God. We have a gospel to preach and it is the way of Jesus but God is not as harsh as men would paint Him. God is love and He loves to show mercy.Mercy even triumphs over judgement. The world looks at sin but God knows we are all…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,11:26)Hi LAM,This the humble path chosen by the glorious monogenes son when he partook of flesh that we might live.If he did not completely inherit and overcome our fallen state then what hope to we have? Do you reject this verse or can you grasp it as part of the whole wisdom of God too?I reject only your…[Read more]