Nick,

If you believe what Paul wrote in Scripture then you believe that Jesus rose in a Spirit quickened mortal body.

If that body is damaged then then God designed it to be damaged and if it is scared then God designed it to be scared. Who are we to debate God.

A Spiritual body is a Spirit quickened mortal body as a Spirit quickened mortal…[Read more]

Nick

Hi kW,

The spiritual body is a new body.

Not a rehabilitated old one.

I assume you mean upgraded one as a Spirit quickened mortal body is an upgrade to a mortal body. It is certainly not the one that was laid in Jesus’ grave.

Nick,

Hi KW,

A natural body can contain the Holy Spirit as Rom 8 tells us.

Paul does tell the Romans the Spirit is contained in them but he also says it shall quicken their mortal bodies. What are mortal bodies before they are quickened? They are nonSpiritual, ordinary, natural.

Nick,

I have read it before but another one.

There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

No support here either since the natural body is a mortal body that is not quickened by the Spirit and the Spiritual body is a mortal body that is quickened by the Spirit. Romans 8 makes that point as well.

Nick,

All flesh is not the same flesh:

This is true for the mortal body is not the same as the quickened mortal body because the former is not quickened by the Spirit. I do not see how that is evidence of your point.

Nick,

Yes, It is God’s mercy to save the flesh and quicken it by his Spirit.

It is also needful to accept the Spirit as your instructor and seek to learn all it teaches.

The two are linked as Romans 8 teaches.

Nick,

Flesh does indeed mean flesh and since flesh is saved because those times are cut short then it means God had a reason for saving it. It is only done for the elects sake and it is the elects whose mortal body will be quickened. That quickened mortal body is a Spiritual body because it is quickened by the Spirit.

Nick,

Yes, but Paul’s choice of words is “quicken your mortal bodies”. How can mortal bodies be quickened when they are already alive?

Nick,

Hi KW,

This speaks about men being saved from death.

Eternal salvation is another issue entirely

Are you claiming flesh does not literally mean flesh?

Nick,

Matthew 24:22Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

22 And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh should be saved: but for the sake of the elect those days shall be shortened.

Flesh will be saved for the elects sake.

A literal interpretation is flesh is saved.

Nick,

Its what the words read literally.

Ed quotes Romans 8:11

You might have missed it but the shall is future tense while the dwelleth is present tense.

The only context I supplied was that the people in the church at Rome were alive when Paul wrote those words. I supplied it only emphasize it as I am sure you were already aware of it.

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Nick,

In Romans 8:11 Paul is telling people that are alive and have the Spirit that their mortal bodies that are already quick will be quickened in the future.

Nick,

It literally states flesh will be saved. Why don’t you understand those words literally?

It also states it is the mortal body that is quickened.

Nick,

Yes, God dwells in Jesus through the Spirit and by faith in Jesus both Jesus and God dwell in those that believe through the same Spirit.

Nick,

No as it is a mortal body that has been quickened.

Then according to you “no flesh will be saved”?

David,

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Nick,

Yes, and that heavenly body will be their quickened mortal body.

@JFSurvivor,

All I can say is let the Spirit guide you.

So how does the give life to mortal bodies that are dust?

Nick,

Is Paul wrong?