I believe this thread would be more appropriate in the Messages thread.

Quote (Gene @ Nov. 16 2009,23:19)Kerwin………All the self righteous like to think they are righteous by their so called (FREE WILL) choices and it supports their PRIDE. They would naturally say people who quote what John said was supporting sin, but if you notice that is no what I or anyone else has said as far as i Know, by quoting Johns…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2009,02:22)Hi KW, God is pleased with guilty children? You must be joking. When we sin He wants us to acknowledge it and learn and move on.You seem to want a schoolmaster not a loving FatherThat is what James states:James 4:8-10(KJV) reads:Quote Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye…[Read more]

Tim Kraft wrote:Quote For just a moment lets not look at the Quran or the Bible, each of which is a powerful influence to either side of this point. Lets just for once let common sense play a factor in our choice of belief.You tread a dangerous path in attempting to compromise between false prophets and true prophets even though they both may…[Read more]

bodhitharta wrote:Quote I don't have feelings of Guilt because I realize that the Holy Spirit is comforting me and teaching me all the time.I am pointing out that in order to please God you have to have a feeling of guilt.  The difference is that I believe I mean something different by the word guilt than you do.  I believe that I mean “remorse” t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 16 2009,06:59)hi kerwinis it not the trade mark of the devil ,to sell you and boost your ego ,like in garden of eden he said;Ge 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. Ge 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.and yet she w…[Read more]

Gollamudi,So your source claims that this verse is fabricated.Isaiah 53:5(NIV) reads:Quote But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.Why should I believe them more that the translators of multiple translations of the Scriptures?I even…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 16 2009,12:17)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 15 2009,13:11)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 16 2009,02:50)Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.Deuteronomy…[Read more]

Gollamudi .I can perhaps understand your sources ignorance but I assumed you were more informed of Scripture than to fall for that.  You really do not know what “mystery” Paul was speaking of.  I am also going to question that a mystery and a secret are different as some of the definitions of the two words appear to by synonyms to English speak…[Read more]

Quote (georg @ Nov. 16 2009,18:27)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 09 2009,20:54)Quote (gollamudi @ Nov. 09 2009,12:15)Hi brother Const.,you have made good points on this thread. I know there are many dogmas which Christianity had adopted from Pagan myths.The name of the thread is not deceptive since Christianity had taken its origins from hellenism.Why have…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 16 2009,07:34)Hi KW, God arranges the circumstances of the lives of his children and does not allow them to be tested beyond grace and we can also pray against hard testing. But if our consciences have become corrupt and now accuse us day and night as in scruples and we listen to it we cannot listen to  the constant…[Read more]

bodhitharta wrote:Quote Suppose someone was thinking about stealing but the Holy Spirit made them aware and gave them strength to overcome the temptation why should or would they then feel guilty.I am a bit confused by your apparent assumption that a person would feel guilty for being tempted and not giving into it.   Anyone foolish enough to do…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 16 2009,03:34)Hi KW, The Spirit of God does not lead men to sin.As they learn to walk in the Spirit their ways are changed.That is correct as it works through giving its possessors a “Remorseful awareness of having done something wrong.” which is otherwise called called “godly sorrow” or “guilt”.2 Corinthians 7:10-11(KJV)…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 16 2009,03:30)Hi KW, Those who have bathed only need wash their feet.Freedom includes freedom from the heavy burden of guilt.Are you stating that Jesus taught his disciples to be psychopaths?   Perhaps you need to expand on what you are stating so not to give that impression.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 16 2009,03:11)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 16 2009,08:07)bodhitharta wrote:Quote No burdens and false guilt. Most Christians are of the mind thay they are “bad” even after they say Jesus set them free they still call themselves sinners.If I am guilty of sin then I am guilty of sin no matter whoever claims otherwise even if they…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 16 2009,02:50)Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.Deuteronomy 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as…[Read more]

bodhitharta wrote:Quote No burdens and false guilt. Most Christians are of the mind thay they are “bad” even after they say Jesus set them free they still call themselves sinners.If I am guilty of sin then I am guilty of sin no matter whoever claims otherwise even if they claim to be angel from heaven.   The only time I am resolved of my guilt is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 16 2009,02:36)Hi KW, Paul was not a sinner but still endured 'sin in the flesh'.Not the same thing of course.It is true that before Jesus died and so put the new covenant into effect that we to were doomed to struggled with sin and ask “who shall deliver me from the body of this death?”.  But now those that enter the new…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 16 2009,02:35)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 15 2009,10:59)G, So you bray. But it is not written.It is written through out scripture.I believe Nick is speaking of Gene's Spirit=Intellect argument.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2009,02:09)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 16 2009,06:40)bodhitharta wrote:Quote Can you tell me exactly why the Quran is wrong?I have not read it and so do not know if it is true or not but I go by what you say.  I have tested what you state and find it is not the same gospel taught by Jesus and his servants nor by the prophets…[Read more]