Gollamudi,”Why Jews reject Jesus” by Yossi Ginzberg reads:Quote All traditional Jewish sources agree on several issues germane to this:1) The Messiah will herald in an endless era of world peace. 2) God has no physical presence, and cannot “father” a child. 3) The Torah (Old Testament) cannot be changed or abrogated. 4) Deeds are as important, if…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 20 2010,11:32)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2010,21:28)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 18 2010,14:23)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 16 2010,19:42)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 16 2010,14:01)So how is that process about brother Kerwin?You mean to say Jesus was created in the womb of Mary?Jesus was spcial creation of God like the first Adam?I suppose you…[Read more]

Ed J.,I am not sure what Luke 8:5 has to do with your point that the Holy Spirit is God. The seed is the word of God, or more specifically all of Jesus’ teachings. That is not literally the same as the Holy Spirit. I suppose you can make the point that figuratively the Holy Spirit is the Word of God.I am going to disagree with you on Hebrews 7…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 20 2010,07:39)Kerwin.You said  …”Did you notice that Jonah 2:8 clearly states the disobedient forfeit the grace of God?”Did you know… that when that scripture was written, it was to Israel still under the “Old Covenant” while still under the “Law”?  So, of course, any disobedience of the “Law” would be sin.   Also, I do…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2010,08:11)hi kerwinyou can go to ;The Galilean Library. it explain it in a simple way ,but watch the example they put forthThank you. They seemed to get confused about pressures put on a person to influence their free will.

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 19 2010,22:48)Kerwin……..the whole point here is that there is (NO) Such thing as a so-called “FREE WILL” . That is a oxymoron A WILL is the result of (INFLUENCES) and that is (NOT) FREE. GOD'S WILL is the result of INFLUENCES ALSO.  “FOR GOD DOES AL THINGS AFTER THE (COUNCIL) OF HIS OWN WILL. You see GOD'S WILL is a…[Read more]

You are correct that Deuteronomy 6:4 proves there is only one God. We all know that if you have one of an item you do not have 3 of that same item. For example you cannot have 1 apple at the same time you have 3 apples. You either have 1 apple or 3 apples. The Trinitarians attempt to prove that you can have 1 apple at the same time you have 3…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 19 2010,11:29)kerwin.   Saved by obedience to the law, and saved by the “Grace of God”, are two different things.As shown by Israel, they were not able to obey the law, God turned away from them.  We are now saved by the “Grace of God”, not by anything we can do, (obedience).  Christ Jesus took the sins of the world on Hi…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 18 2010,23:18)kerwin, we just saying you could have used a better example than toilet 'humour'!! that's all.I felt it was a very good example as all human beings go bathroom. I suppose one could argue Jesus did not and therefore he was not a human being. You cannot use scripture to prove he did as it is not stated that he…

Choosenone wrote:Quote You misinterpert Galatians 1:8, notice it says … But if ever we also, or a messenger out of heaven, should be bringing an evangel to you beside that which we bring to you, let him be anathema!  “Beside that which WE bring to you…”  He is saying that evangel in which “he” brings by the authority granted him by Christ J…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 18 2010,22:56)Kerwin………Jesus said, if YOU BEING (EVIL) knowhow to give gifts to your childern how much more will God give them the spirit that ask. and again, “God looked for (ONE) righteous man and found (NONE) therefor he took it upon his own arm to bring salvation. and again “whosoever calls on the name of the LORD…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 18 2010,11:16)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2010,21:02)Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 17 2010,11:40)kerwin.   When discussing “free will” you state   …”I do not know what definition Choosenone uses”.  Are there different definitions of free will?  No where in scripture is “free will” mentioned, therefore I do not have a definition of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 18 2010,06:14)Kerwin…..I understand your logic, However Scripture says “GOD is (NOT) WILLING (ANY) PARISH”. So why would he WILL to destory any, and if he is the POTTER and WE the CLAY, then, he will make us as He sees fit, but there is a positive thing going for all his creation it appears, and that is (HIS) WILL, and after…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 18 2010,14:11)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 16 2010,19:44)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 16 2010,12:42)Hi brothers Gene and Kerwin,I appreciate both of you for participating in this unending debate on Virgin birth of Jesus. But I am not convinced of how Jesus had to be born of a Virgin which was not according to Hebrew scriptures but…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 18 2010,14:23)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 16 2010,19:42)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 16 2010,14:01)So how is that process about brother Kerwin?You mean to say Jesus was created in the womb of Mary?Jesus was spcial creation of God like the first Adam?I suppose you could say that.  On the other hand he was probably closer to the…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 18 2010,03:50)kerwin.   You say “but the message he (Jesus) preached to them is the same message preached to the nations”. This is not true, the difference is…Jesus taught “The Gospel of the Kingdom of God”, which was:Jesus Christ is…Shepherd and King.His gospel declares…Pardon and forgiveness.He preached…To the…[Read more]

Gene, what you call Jesus' influenced will is what some call his free will. They would state that Jesus subjected his free will to God. In other words he denied himself

Choosenone,It was necessary that the children of Israel rejected Jesus before he came to the rest of the world but the message he preached to them is the same message preached to the nations. The largest difference between what Jesus teaches and what his students taught later is that the Spirit did not come until the after Jesus ascension and…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 17 2010,11:40)kerwin.   When discussing “free will” you state   …”I do not know what definition Choosenone uses”.  Are there different definitions of free will?  No where in scripture is “free will” mentioned, therefore I do not have a definition of it, because there is no context to define it in.   But Gods will is ment…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 17 2010,07:52)kerwin were did i say the word religion or even make allusion to that ???The word faith and the word religion have a definition in common. The way you used faith led me to the conclusion you were using the definition the two words have in common. If I was mistaken then I did not understand you correctly.