To all,Some things are symbols to teach adherents the error of their ways.  If one sees a bull being stoned then one will strive to avoid doing those things that will get one stoned.  The meat of the bull is also considered “unclean” in that it cannot be eaten like unclean meat.  Thus the bull presents a living creature who has corrupted even it…[Read more]

T8,If Paul what speaking of all flesh and blood then why did he bother arguing that all flesh is not the same?

Irene,I do not know for sure whether demons are fallen angels or not.  I do know that can be hypothesized based on the fact that Satan, a fallen angel, is to have struck Job with illness and demons are also said to do that to humans.    This seems to be the strongest evidence one way or another I assume it is true and so base my thoughts on wh…[Read more]

Pierre,The lesson of scripture is to properly understand the word of God. That is why having it written in a language you can understand fluently is important. Human languages are often dependant on the context of unspoken words that the writer and his audience are aware of. In the case of scripture the audience is those that became Christians…[Read more]

Georg,Philo of Alexander was more aware of the culture and way that Jesus, Paul, and other Jews of his time thought than you do.  It is only the arrogant that ignore the cultural context of scripture as it is clearly written that Paul would be a Jew to a Jew and a Gentile to a Gentile. If you know God n then It is simple enough to test whether…[Read more]

Georg,Philo of Alexander agrees with you and at one time I thought that might be the case but it seems clear Scripture does not as it is the Spirit of God that writes God's commands on our heart and mind.That is why Jesus teaches us the Holy Spirit will teach us all things, John 14:26.What scriptures do you have to support your idea?

David,Why do you believe a hypothetical alteration of Jesus’ features support the idea he is an immaterial being?  I do not see a link.   Were Jesus’ feature also changed during the transfiguration event? I do see where Jesus appearing as if from nowhere can lead to the speculation that he materialized from an immaterial being but only if a perso…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ Jan. 03 2011,02:18)Hello,I was reading in Wikipedia (Incarnation of demons) that demons do not possess bodies but could create bodies.Is this the answer to this thread – or was it about something else?Interesting, I wonder where that belief came from? I have heard different hypothesis but have seen nothing in scripture to…[Read more]

To All,The story about the adulteress brought before Jesus for judgment is not in early scripture manuscripts that God has made available to be studied. D.K. is merely speculating why it was left out of those Scriptures.

Pierre,I am still in the process of learning about the Holy Spirit. At this time I understand that the Spirit of God is a part of God with characteristics of an individual person but never the less, not a separate person. I believe their relationship that would be similar to but not the same as the Mars rover and its operator. The Spirit is the…[Read more]

Mike Boll,I understand your point of view about what Paul stated and I disagree with it for the reasons I stated previously.I wanted to see if you agree that Scripture in general declares that God dwells in Jesus through the Holy Spirit and thus Jesus is Emanuel.

Pierre,I am not declaring that Jesus is God. I am declaring that God dwells in Jesus through the Holy Spirit and thus when Jesus speaks or acts; he is committing the acts of God and speaking the word of God. Paul is acknowledging this fact with his words.It is simple, Jesus never speaks or acts for himself, but what he states and does is what…[Read more]

To all,Please stop squabbling like children.  Act more mature in Christ.  This thread is to learn more about God's word and thus hopefully, him.  Please put aside your grievances with one another and seek peace with God.  Thank you.

David,Your tenet that Jesus is immaterial is wrapped around your chosen interpretation of one scripture.

Irene,The implication of your words is that you do not believe Scripture when it declares all flesh is not the same. Do you believe the flesh and blood of a pine tree are the same as the flesh and blood of a maple tree? They are not as the maple tree blood can be made syrup while the pine tree sap is more of a glue or sealant. The flesh is…[Read more]

Irene,I am moving our discussion to the thread about spirits having bodies.

Mike Boll,I will repeat as I have stated in the last several posts that Paul received the Gospel from God. I have clarified my position by stating that just because he received it from God who dwells in Jesus through his Spirit does not mean Jesus is not a man.Did Peter receive the gospel from God or from a man as you claim Jesus was a man when…[Read more]

Tim Kraft,We are taught that God is love.  Whether that is a literal or figurative statement I do not know.   What I do know is that God loves us and that all true love that is displayed by any one of his creations comes from him.You ask what law would state the maximum penalty for a crime then mitigate that penalty due to the circumstances.  I do…[Read more]

DK,I do not think they will understand what you have stated.   They may not know, or if knowing acknowledge, that scripture is not in the earliest manuscripts of John.   They thus attribute the interpretation you speculate others may have made to you.  That does not seem that uncommon for those walking according to the human nature to do.That so…[Read more]

Mike Boll,So in your heart you choose to deny Scripture is the Word of God because it was written by the hand of man even though it is God that guides that hand. That is regrettable.Paul states that his message is from God with these words:Colossians 1:25(NIV) reads:Quote I have become its servant by the commission God gave me to present to you…[Read more]