Quote (terraricca @ April 20 2011,13:31)KerwinQuote Jesus is spiritually The Son of God because he inherited the Spirit of God.  That is to say he came in possession of the Holy Spiritreceiving is not the same as possessing is it ?PierreYou are correct as according to Merriam-Webster online dictionary receive means “to come into possesion”.

Quote (Paladin @ April 20 2011,15:33)Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2011,17:19)Paladin and Mike,It is know that the Jews of Jesus' times often spoke in mysticisms.  The Hebrew language is based on mysticisms which is why  the word spirit can mean wind as well as other things.  Jesus spoke mystically when he chose to use his flesh and blood to sy…[Read more]

Mike Boll,I have to say that according to the literal rendition of Revelations 13:8 it does literally state “the lamb slain from the foundation of the world”.  It is my belief that both you and I agree that interpretation is in error as it is not meant literally but rather is speaking of God’s plan for humankind.  That plan was put into action…[Read more]

Paladin and Mike,It is know that the Jews of Jesus' times often spoke in mysticisms.  The Hebrew language is based on mysticisms which is why  the word spirit can mean wind as well as other things.  Jesus spoke mystically when he chose to use his flesh and blood to symbolise other things.    He spoke in such riddles because he knew the truth is s…[Read more]

Irene,According to scripture those who believe will become a new creation created like God in true righteousness and holiness.  Quote Ephesians 4 21if so be ye did hear him, and in him were taught, as truth is in Jesus; 22ye are to put off concerning the former behaviour the old man, that is corrupt according to the desires of the deceit, 23and…[Read more]

To all,Jesus, the embodied Spirit of Christ, began his ministry in Galilee.   He like his predacessors called for each and every person to change and do all that is right or perish.  He preached a message of the comming new covenant but that is not specifically mentioned in this passage.  His whole teaching is the light and he is the lamp that sh…[Read more]

Mike Boll,All the host of heaven is created in the image of God.  Elohim can reference any, or all members of the host.The host of heaven is also called the unity of the Spirit.Consider this scripture.Quote Ephesians 2:22 (Young's Literal Translation) 22in whom also ye are builded together, for a habitation of God in the Spirit. God lives in each…[Read more]

To all,Since Scripture gives accounts of citizens of the Spiritual realms having bodies it follows that at least at times they have bodies.This does not eliminate the possibility that some citiizens of the realms of Spirit do not have bodies.

Paladin,Your wrote to Mike:Quote God promised many things before he began creation. When he spoke them into prophecy, they became “true” without being “truth.” They were true because God spoke it; they remained “without being true, because the prophecies were not fulfilled yet.Since what you wrote is true then it follows that it is also true that…[Read more]

Mike Boll,If Paladin is correct it seems you are claiming that the spirit being you conjecture will become the Son of man before he was made human because God foreordained he would and thus Jesus was treating what God had promised as if it already was in John 6:62-63. That is of course a plausible argument but it is also the same one that I used…[Read more]

Irene,I am going by the context of John 6:62-63.  In verse 63 Jesus specifically states “the spirit it is that is giving life; the flesh doth not profit anything”.  It is the Spirit of Christ that Jesus is speaking of and not the flesh because that is what is important.   Jesus knows that he is nothing without the Spirit of God and he assume…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 19 2011,04:10)Quote (kerwin @ April 18 2011,23:55)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 18 2011,11:00)Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2011,09:30)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 18 2011,22:25)Terrica, You ignored my Question.Who Created you according to scripture?God or Jesus?SFI did answer you it is God who create all ,all others are…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 19 2011,09:48)Quote (kerwin @ April 17 2011,23:55)God creates through the Spirit of Christ.Close Kerwin.Actually God created through the spirit BEING Christ.  You were only one word off.  Mike Boll,Genesis 1:2 states that that the Spirit of God hovered over the waters.  The Spirit of God is also called the Spirit of Ch…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 18 2011,06:10)This is amazing…I reported two posts for abuse, one from SF and one from Mikeboll only to find that the reports go to Mikeboll for moderating … No wonder Mikeboll never gets tiled and others don't get tiled…How can a Moderator who is partial be a moderator of his own abusive posts – will he give himself a…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 19 2011,09:07)Quote (Wispring @ April 19 2011,12:46)Hi Irene,Quote Jhn 6:63   It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, are spirit, and are life.   The boldened word in John 6:63 quoted above is reema/rhema. In my ISA bible program it is rendered remata(nomitive plural f…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ April 17 2011,17:13)Quote (kerwin @ April 17 2011,15:07)Ted,It is true that all human beings, except Jesus, have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God but we must be careful not to misuse that fact to justify our sins instead of repenting of them.Greetings kerwin….. your point is well taken and having said that,there is…[Read more]

Paladin,I am sorry for confusing you.  I meant that Mike insisted that “was made” for the common Greek word “ginomai”.   Strong’s states the words are related and I can see the relationship in their definitions.  Neither of those is that important though the former was just a complaint of mine and so even more useless. I thought the later may co…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 18 2011,04:10)Paladin,I am having some trouble understanding what your conclusion is.   From what I understand the common Greek word “gennaō”, which you label gennaw, means sired.  So flesh is sired by flesh and spirit is sired by spirit.   So just as Jesus taught Nicodemus that a human being must be sired of both Spirit…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 18 2011,11:00)Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2011,09:30)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 18 2011,22:25)Terrica, You ignored my Question.Who Created you according to scripture?God or Jesus?SFI did answer you it is God who create all ,all others are only participants that is what scriptures saysPierreScriptures are very…[Read more]

Paladin,I am having some trouble understanding what your conclusion is.   From what I understand the common Greek word “gennaō”, which you label gennaw, means sired.  So flesh is sired by flesh and spirit is sired by spirit.   So just as Jesus taught Nicodemus that a human being must be sired of both Spirit and water to enter the kingdom of heaven…[Read more]