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    To all,Jesus is God spiritual son through the Spirit of God and not his biological son since God is spirit.

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    Quote (Paladin @ April 22 2011,13:47)Quote (kerwin @ April 22 2011,16:12)To all that are concerned,I began a thread about Colossians 19:12-19  in  BELIEVERS PLACE » Scripture & Biblical Doctrine » Colossians 19:12-19 I may start other threads in regards to the other scriptures we have discussed here.Col 19???The last verse is 19. The chapter is 1.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wispring @ April 22 2011,11:50)To all,Quote 12Giving thanks to the Father who did make us meet for the participation of the inheritance of the saints in the light, My understanding of this line of scripture is that God is being thanked for making Paul and all whom Paul preached the gospel to be competent in or qualifying for participation…[Read more]

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    To all,I agree with Irene that we are transfered into the rulership of Jesus The King of Kings by obeying the Spirit of Christ; for Jesus speaks to us through it.Quote Romans 8:23(NIV)Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies.

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    To all,There are at least five Hebrew words that have been translated into the word “angel” in either the King James or New American Standard versions of Scriptures.   These words are:Quote mal'ak1.messenger, representative a.messenger b.angel c.the theophanic angel 'elohiym1.(plural) a.rulers, judges b.divine ones c.angels d.gods 2.(…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ April 22 2011,00:40)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 16 2011,20:45)WJ,lol you know buddy, you even gave them a “i dont know” answer so they wouldnt have to side with either or.  And you even made the question more positive using the word “truthful” instead of a negative “liar”they are hypocrites, siding with whom they choose.WJ i…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ April 22 2011,10:27)Pierre,If the Son was begotten before the ages and existed eternally within the Father before that, this poll helps people see how the Father was a 'Father' before He actually beget His Son.  Sort of like a biological father is a father before the child is begotten according to human terms.  People wonder h…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ April 22 2011,01:28)I voted at conception, however there is some debate in the phrases “mother (or father) to be” if the child does not make it to fruition some would argue that you failed to meet the criteria. I disagree, we lost a child in the second trimester and I believe like David “I will go to him (her), but he (she)…[Read more]

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    To all that are concerned,I began a thread about Colossians 1:12-19  in  BELIEVERS PLACE » Scripture & Biblical Doctrine » Colossians 19:12-19 I may start other threads in regards to the other scriptures we have discussed here.Edited to correct address of scripture I addressed here. I do not believe I can correct the title of the thread. I did…[Read more]

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    Mike,I am rather confused whether you believe A, B, or something else:Quote A)That a preexistent being from the realms of spirit incarnated into a human body that was descended from David.B)That a preexistent being from the realm of spirit was transformed by God into a human being.You explanations seem to swing from one to the other when I try…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 21 2011,10:55)To All………….A SPIRIT DOE NOT HAVE A BODY IT IS WHAT IS (IN) A BODY. How simple and most here  can't even get that straight. Jesus is NOT a SPIRIT “BODY”,  Jesus has a Spirit(ual) Body The is to say a “BODY” THAT IS BEING KEPT ALIVE BY SPIRIT THAT IS (IN ) IT. Jesus clearly said after his r…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 21 2011,09:59)Quote (kerwin @ April 19 2011,23:01)All the host of heaven is created in the image of God.You may be right, but what scripture tells you this?I only know of mankind and Jesus who are made in the image of God.  I assume angels are too, but there is no scripture to that effect.Nor is there any mention of…[Read more]

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    Quote (karmarie @ April 20 2011,17:25)Kathi,You do realise we shouldnt even be speaking here? But I don't permit a woman to teach, nor to exercise authority over a man, but to be in quietness.1 Timothy 2:12let your wives keep silent in the assemblies, for it has not been permitted for them to speak; but let them be in subjection, as the law also…[Read more]

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    Paladin,Some doctrinal tenets are tied in with the various incarnation doctrines.  I forget which specific one you are discussing but anything that when properly understood contradicts it in scripture disproves it.I have discussed my understanding that the Spirit of God is incarnated in Jesus the human being.I have went off topic at least once.

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    Quote (Paladin @ April 20 2011,19:39)Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2011,20:49)Quote (Paladin @ April 20 2011,15:33)Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2011,17:19)Paladin and Mike,It is know that the Jews of Jesus' times often spoke in mysticisms.  The Hebrew language is based on mysticisms which is why  the word spirit can mean wind as well as other things.  …[Read more]

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    Quote (Paladin @ April 20 2011,18:16)Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2011,21:35)Paladin,I am not sure how you understand the word mysticism which according to the definition from the Merriam-Webster online dictionary I am using means:Quote the belief that direct knowledge of God, spiritual truth, or ultimate reality can be attained through subjective…[Read more]

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    Paladin,I am not sure how you understand the word mysticism which according to the definition from the Merriam-Webster online dictionary I am using means:Quote the belief that direct knowledge of God, spiritual truth, or ultimate reality can be attained through subjective experience (as intuition or insight) To reword it and change its tense to…[Read more]

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    Pierre,What or who do you believe the Spirit of God is?

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    Quote (Wispring @ April 20 2011,14:19)Hi Kerwin,   Thank you for your post. I have been reading your posts lately and my respect for you knowledge of God and biblical scripture has deepened.   My understanding of these words of Christ Jesus is that since John the Baptizer was prophet of God heralding the coming of Christ Jesus; this is his way o…[Read more]

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    To all,I would like to start this discussion of by discussing verse 12.Quote Colossians 1:1212Giving thanks to the Father who did make us meet for the participation of the inheritance of the saints in the light, It is my understanding that God is being thanked for our being allowed to take part in receiving and living by the Spirit of Christ.

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