Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 24 2011,07:41)Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2011,23:08)Angels are part of elohim and if it is not The elohim then it could very well be speaking of angels being involves.  In any case God is the brain and the power while the angels are merely his instruments who choose to do his will therefore their part is of little…[Read more]

Kathy,What do you mean by the word “deity”?Edited to correct spelling after Kathy alerted me to my error. My thanks to her.

To all,It is my opinion we will be like the angels in our ability to travel between realms.There are reports of those who travel between realms even in these ages.

Wispring,Thank you!

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 26 2011,07:36)Quote (kerwin @ April 25 2011,02:15)Lets assume you are correct at there is an inferred “All” in that passage.It does not state enter.  It states “inherit” which means “come into possession of”.Yes, let's DO assume that, since it says nothing to specify any particular kind of flesh.  And do you believe t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 26 2011,08:32)Quote (kerwin @ April 25 2011,01:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 25 2011,01:24)Quote (kerwin @ April 23 2011,02:01)To all,Looking at John 3:10-13 it seems clear Jesus is speaking of the Word, spoken of in John 1:1-18, that was with the Elohim and was elohima in the beginning as the Word came down and united…[Read more]

To all,The Kingdom of heaven is the reign of God and can mean different things in different situation though it is always speaking of being under the reign of God.For example those who walk according to the Spirit are under the reign of God but they are not in the heavens even though the latter is also under the reign of God.

Quote (karmarie @ April 26 2011,07:30)Sorry about all the posts. Ok, ill be quiet:)It is rather hard to have a conversation with someone who chooses not to hold up their end.Rather than be quiet, just try to combine similar posts if possible.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2011,21:32)Quote (seekingtruth @ April 22 2011,23:31)Quote 1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. There is nothing in this verse that prevents flesh and bone from entering.My opinion – WmHi Wm,FLESH cannot enter the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 25 2011,01:24)Quote (kerwin @ April 23 2011,02:01)To all,Looking at John 3:10-13 it seems clear Jesus is speaking of the Word, spoken of in John 1:1-18, that was with the Elohim and was elohima in the beginning as the Word came down and united with the human Jesus.   The same elohim that came down is still in heaven and…[Read more]

To all,Here are some other scriptures to consider.Quote Romans 1”(Young’s Literal Translation) 3concerning His Son, (who is come of the seed of David according to the flesh, 4who is marked out Son of God in power, according to the Spirit of sanctification, by the rising again from the dead,) Jesus Christ our Lord; Marked means separated, so Jes…[Read more]

Karmarie,Quote Matthew 22(Young’s Literal Translation) 23In that day there came near to him Sadducees, who are saying there is not a rising again, and they questioned him, saying, 24`Teacher, Moses said, If any one may die not having children, his brother shall marry his wife, and shall raise up seed to his brother. 25`And there were with us s…[Read more]

To all,Looking at John 3:10-13 it seems clear Jesus is speaking of the Word, spoken of in John 1:1-18, that was with the Elohim and was elohima in the beginning as the Word came down and united with the human Jesus.   The same elohim that came down is still in heaven and will return to heaven in the flesh of Jesus.

To all,Here are some scriptures I found useful for reaching my understanding of John 3:10-21.Quote John 1  (Young's Literal Translation) 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God; 2this one was in the beginning with God; 3all things through him did happen, and without him happened not even one thing that…[Read more]

To all,Only one word, “aggelos”, is translated to angels from the common Greek language.    That word is also the root of archangel and evangelist. Quote aggelos1.a messenger, envoy, one who is sent, an angel, a messenger from GodQuote Hebrews 2(Young’s Literal Translation]5For not to messengers did He subject the coming world, concern…[Read more]

To all,Can a human being enter the third heaven in the tent of their body?

Kathi,Do you mean that Jesus is inside God through the Spirit of Holiness just as God is inside Jesus by the Spirit of Christ.  In the same way both are inside those that believe by the Spirit of God and theose that believe are inside the father through the Son via the Holy Spirit.That is the description of the unity of the Spirit.

To all,Quote Hebrews 1(Young's Litteral Translation) 6and when again He may bring in the first-born to the world, He saith, `And let them bow before him — all messengers of God;' If All the messengers of God bowed before him then how can he be one of them?Note: There is an answer to this one.  I just want to see if we are on the same page in…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 23 2011,10:50)Hi Kerwin,I would be happy to discuss this with you.  Please tell me what you mean by the 'inherited spirit of Christ.'  I want to understand what you are saying before I respond.Thanks,KathiThis definition from the Merriam-Webster online dictionary fits what I mean.Quote to come into possession of or r…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 22 2011,17:27)Kerwin,2 Peter 2:11, 'Whereas Angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation …'Thank you!