Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 31 2011,23:34)Hi Kerwin,Scripture NEVER teaches, or even implies that angels have flesh and bone.  In fact, Jesus teaches the exact OPPOSITE of your understanding in Luke 24:39.  So does Paul when he says that flesh cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.You add “or a physical likeness thereof”.Elijah's angels seemed to be m…[Read more]

Mike,I am not sure why you cannot understand what I wrote.In short Colossians 1:14-19 is teaching us that Jesus is the natural spiritual Son of God.    Those that believe are adopted sons of God and that makes a difference.In the following rundown I quote what I said and then some supporting scripture in order to aid your understanding.  The se…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2011,11:20)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 01 2011,23:12)To all,It is sad that so many believe you can have God without Jesus as Scripture clearly states you cannot.KerwinI agree because Christ the son of God, is our access to God gracePierrePierre,He is our access to God's grace because of both his human nature that comes from…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,07:55)Quote (kerwin @ July 31 2011,23:12)To all,It is sad that so many believe you can have God without Jesus as Scripture clearly states you cannot.  What does that have to do with this thread?  Kerwin, do you have a comment about whether or not Jesus is still a human being in heaven?How about you, T…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 01 2011,12:50)KerwinCol 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:   Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:  C…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2011,04:49)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 01 2011,11:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 30 2011,22:17)Quote (kerwin @ July 26 2011,20:45)Mike,I was using the test to prove angels are not spirit beings.Hi Kerwin,Hebrews 1:14Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?Despite Gene's stubborness,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 01 2011,02:23)Quote (kerwin @ July 31 2011,13:50)Quote In Colossians 1:15, is it the “Spirit of Sonship” who is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God? If you live by the Spirit of God then you are the image of the invisible God as you do as God does for God does his works through you.Okay Kerwin,Let's re-do Col 1 YOUR…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 01 2011,01:54)KerwinQuote Those who believe God are created in Christ Jesus through the Spirit of God that carries out the Word of God.   That is why it is the Spirit of sonship.what is this mean ?is this one of your making ?PierrePierre,I assume you know the Spirit of God is God’s primary agent as it is his Spirit.I as…[Read more]

To all,It is sad that so many believe you can have God without Jesus as Scripture clearly states you cannot.

Mike,For context lets follow  what scripture states:Quote Hebrews 1 King James Version (KJV)4Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 30 2011,22:17)Quote (kerwin @ July 26 2011,20:45)Mike,I was using the test to prove angels are not spirit beings.Hi Kerwin,Hebrews 1:14Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?Despite Gene's stubborness, there is no way to twist the words in this verse to say “angels HAVE…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 31 2011,20:39)Quote (kerwin @ July 31 2011,06:45)Our difference of opinion is who the agent was who carried out God’s Wisdom during the old creation.  You believe Jesus took part and I do not.Hebrews 1But in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son………….through whom he made the universe.John 1In the be…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 30 2011,21:15)Quote (kerwin @ July 30 2011,20:52)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 30 2011,02:06)Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2011,06:03)Wow Roo,You purposely took a hit for the kingdom of God, I'm impressed although I didn't read your thread.  You have me curious God bless, KathiKathi,The scale was 1-10 and was not based on…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ July 31 2011,15:15)Quote (kerwin @ July 31 2011,14:21)Quote (Pastry @ July 31 2011,02:14)Quote (kerwin @ July 29 2011,15:38)Irene,Quote Wisdom is like Patience , Hope, Love and Peace inside a person.  God always had wisdom.  So no way was wisdom brought forth and could be beside God…Proverbs is talking about Jesus IMOGod both p…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 30 2011,23:08)Quote (Pastry @ July 28 2011,07:44)Kerwin!  Where is wisdom a craftsman and was beside God?Or rather, HOW was “wisdom” a craftsMAN at God's side?Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 30 2011,22:38)Quote (kerwin @ July 29 2011,19:48)The point I was addressing is the Hebrew word “qanah” in Scripture which is translated to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 30 2011,22:38)Quote (kerwin @ July 29 2011,19:48)The point I was addressing is the Hebrew word “qanah” in Scripture which is translated to “possessed” in the KJV and “brought me forth” in the NIV.Kerwin,Read the NETNotes info I posted on page 107, first post.  Read the green type Kerwin.  It explains why the older t…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ July 31 2011,02:14)Quote (kerwin @ July 29 2011,15:38)Irene,Quote Wisdom is like Patience , Hope, Love and Peace inside a person.  God always had wisdom.  So no way was wisdom brought forth and could be beside God…Proverbs is talking about Jesus IMOGod both possesses Wisdom in him and created Wisdom with his actions, words, and t…[Read more]

Pierre,Still not seeing where you get that only some righteous will be rise in the first resurrection since “But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him” speaks of the righteous and “Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom” speaks of the end of the thousand years.  That is is…[Read more]

Seekimg Truth,I am glad to hear your mother is doing better.

Quote (kerwin @ July 30 2011,15:47)Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2011,01:03)Wow Roo,You purposely took a hit for the kingdom of God, I'm impressed although I didn't read your thread.  You have me curious God bless, KathiKatthi,Do you remember Jesus or any other person of God in scripture calling anyone stupid.  That is what it sounds like KJ states h…[Read more]