Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2011,08:47)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 02 2011,23:12)Marty,It sounds like you might be onto something with “Jesus was not the first creature created by God.  He was the first of the creation of God to be born of God.”Hi Kerwin and Marty,Not only was he the FIRST, but he was also the ONLY creature of God said to be born of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2011,08:37)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 02 2011,23:09)Colossians 1 King James Version (KJV)13 who(The unity who directly unified with God through the Spirit of God) hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14In whom(The unity who directly unified with God through…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 03 2011,11:21)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 03 2011,03:49)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2011,15:16)KerwinQuote Jesus is the natural Son of God's spirit and not the Son of God's physical side as God has no physical side.As the Son he is the one God chose to have his fullness dwell in by the Spirit of Christwhat do you mean by ” is the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 03 2011,12:10)KerwinQuote “do you believe in the unseen?'if it is my pay cheque yes i believe that i will never see one againso what you mean unseen ?Pierre,Angels are unseen when God chooses to hide them from our sight as he did with Baalam. We can thus not see them even when they are right in front of our eyes.Where is…[Read more]

Pierre,The work of Jesus the Son of God is not done as he still is the mediator of the new covenant. As the mediator he still must be a human being as he is mediating between his brothers and his God.Please see that Marty made the point that those that believe are resurrected through the human being Jesus.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 03 2011,08:21)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 01 2011,23:12)Mike,My comment is if you believe Jesus is not a human being then you have thrown him out and are attempting to have the Father without the Son.  Anyone who reads scripture should be very aware that Jesus being like his brother human beings is important to the message of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 03 2011,09:04)Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver.There is a rule, Kerwin.Genesis 18:12Sarah laughed to herself, saying, “ After I have become old, shall I have pleasure, my lor…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 01 2011,01:51)Quote (kerwin @ July 26 2011,21:05)Mike,John was written in common Greek and not English.Yes Kerwin.  And in the common Greek, 1:14 says the Word came to BE flesh, not came to BE IN flesh.  Am I right?Quote (kerwin @ July 26 2011,21:05)Do you believe “flesh” is a position the Word came to fill like Arnold S…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 02 2011,19:44)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 02 2011,16:47)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 01 2011,12:36)Kerwin!  So you believe that Angels are in Heaven with flesh an blood?  That is not what Scripture says.  1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit inc…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 03 2011,07:40)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 01 2011,23:44)Paul wrote he was unsure whether a man entered the third heaven in body or out and if he was as sure as you insist then he would not have said he was unsure.Hi Kerwin,Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.  Now, could God bring a flesh man in body to VIEW the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 03 2011,04:05)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 03 2011,04:06)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2011,14:21)Kerwinyour answer is circular ,it does not mean anything.if you say that angel are flesh and blood and boons then you are not understanding scriptures that says other wise Heb 1:14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 03 2011,09:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,14:27)I'm not going to let you slink away from this, Marty.  My DOG was born, and is also a creation of God.So why couldn't Jesus have been born, and also be a creation of his God?  You know, he's not only called “the firstborn of every creature”, but he also calls himself “the b…[Read more]

Mike,The Son = The unity who directly unified with God through the Spirit of God.A son = Unity who is indirectly unified with God through the Spirit of God by the Son of God.This is how it looks if you use the unity known as the Son of GodQuote Colossians 1 King James Version (KJV)13 who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 02 2011,11:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,07:55)Quote (kerwin @ July 31 2011,23:12)To all,It is sad that so many believe you can have God without Jesus as Scripture clearly states you cannot.  What does that have to do with this thread?  Kerwin, do you have a comment about whether or not Jesus is still a human being in h…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2011,14:21)Kerwinyour answer is circular ,it does not mean anything.if you say that angel are flesh and blood and boons then you are not understanding scriptures that says other wise Heb 1:14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?Rev 19:10 At this I fell at his(the angel)…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2011,15:16)KerwinQuote Jesus is the natural Son of God's spirit and not the Son of God's physical side as God has no physical side.As the Son he is the one God chose to have his fullness dwell in by the Spirit of Christwhat do you mean by ” is the natural Son of God's spirit “natural means more physically no ? Quote God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 01 2011,01:51)Quote (kerwin @ July 26 2011,21:05)Mike,John was written in common Greek and not English.Yes Kerwin.  And in the common Greek, 1:14 says the Word came to BE flesh, not came to BE IN flesh.  Am I right?Quote (kerwin @ July 26 2011,21:05)Do you believe “flesh” is a position the Word came to fill like Arnold S…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 31 2011,19:18)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 30 2011,21:15)Quote (kerwin @ July 30 2011,20:52)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 30 2011,02:06)Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2011,06:03)Wow Roo,You purposely took a hit for the kingdom of God, I'm impressed although I didn't read your thread.  You have me curious God bless, KathiKathi,The…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 01 2011,00:54)Quote (kerwin @ July 28 2011,22:50)Mike,I remember woman being created to be a help mate to man because man was lonely but I do not remember women being a possession.  A slave is a possession.Well Kerwin,Were wives romanced and courted and made to fall in love with their suitors?  Or were they GIVEN to t…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 01 2011,12:36)Kerwin!  So you believe that Angels are in Heaven with flesh an blood?  That is not what Scripture says.  1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.  Peace and Love IreneIrene,If Paul meant it the way you unde…[Read more]