Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 17 2011,05:01)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 15 2011,09:04)Kerwin!  So The Word of God in both Scriptures are not who became Jesus?  Then who is it in Rev 19:13   And he clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.   Rev 19:14   And the armies in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine…[Read more]

Irene,Quote Kerwin!  No Sir, I only compared those two Scriptures in Rev. 13 to show who Jesus is in John 1:1…. It plainly show that… I also asked you and Marty who that could be in Rev. 19  who that description of that verse is?  You or Marty have not answered it….I have stated that Jesus is called the word of God in Revelations 19- wh…[Read more]

Mike,Quote 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.Can you HONESTLY tell me that you are unable see that sentence as saying: “THE MAN JESUS CHRIST, WHO ONCE DIED FOR US, IS NOW THE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN”?If you c…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2011,00:05)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 14 2011,11:33)It does not state or make the point that Jesus gave up being a man.1 Cor 15:45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.The last Adam BECAME a life-giving spirit, Kerwin.  If a man BECOMES a spirit, then he is no long…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Okay Kerwin.  If you must go as far as pretending that you don't know what “root” means, I have gone as far as I can go with you. You just made a personal attack without trying to use reason to explain why you believe other than what I wrote.   Did you do that because you are unable to counter what I wrote?I am sure you are well aware t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2011,08:35)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 14 2011,18:03)Mike,Are you implying that “all creation” means both the old and new creations?Hi Kerwin,Let's see:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature. 16 For through him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2011,10:43)KerwinQuote Pierre,Is it our bodies God will rull or is it our character? but LOVE will remain''  do you remember those words from Paul ? did you know the faith of Abraham ? stay faithful even doe God ask him to sacrifice his only son ?do you have see and understood Christ LOVE for his father our God and his…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2011,21:56)Thank you Kerwin!  I brought that same point up myself about 100 pages ago!  I asked if God was purposely feeding in to mankind's “fairy tales” by showing Moses exactly how the Cherubim were supposed to look on the lid of the ark.Of course they have bodies, and I'm quite sure their bodies look exactly how G…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 14 2011,01:50)Marty!  Don't you see what you are doing??? Quote In is through Jesus, the last Adam, that God had forseen the culmination and fulfillment of his plan for this world and for humanity and the world to come.This is not what that Scripture in Col. 1:15 says   You are adding, and that is npt good….Read it a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2011,21:22)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2011,00:33)Neither one of these scriptures has context inferring what the title “root” means.Okay Kerwin.  If you must go as far as pretending that you don't know what “root” means, I have gone as far as I can go with you.Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2011,00:33)In conclusion Jesus is befo…[Read more]

Mike,Thank you for the reminder.Quote As Irene has showed you, Rev 19 tells us exactly who the “Word” is.  This is what God speaks by the Spirit of God through John.Quote Revelation 19 King James Version (KJV)13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. You can see for yourself that it does not say…[Read more]

Mike,Quote 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all men………Now this can be understood that Jesus is STILL a man – which is how most people take it.  Or, it could be understood that the man who gave himself as a ransom IS NOW the mediator between God and…[Read more]

To all,It is written:Quote Exodus 25:18King James Version (KJV) 18And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat.If angels have no form then how could the children of Israels form two cherubims of beaten gold?If cherubims did not have a unique form then why did God specify them by…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 10 2011,23:17)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2011,16:59)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2011,11:37)KerwinQuote I am now confused about what you believe makes someone a spirit being as it was my understanding that you believed it was the body.  If his body was 100% human being and 0% spirit being as you apply then how was he both a human…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 10 2011,23:10)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 02 2011,16:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,07:55)Quote (kerwin @ July 31 2011,23:12)To all,It is sad that so many believe you can have God without Jesus as Scripture clearly states you cannot.  What does that have to do with this thread?  Kerwin, do you have a comment about whether or n…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2011,10:43)KerwinQuote Pierre,Is it our bodies God will rull or is it our character? but LOVE will remain''  do you remember those words from Paul ? did you know the faith of Abraham ? stay faithful even doe God ask him to sacrifice his only son ?do you have see and understood Christ LOVE for his father our God and his…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 11 2011,16:34)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 11 2011,18:01)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 11 2011,01:01)Kerwin!  I think to make sure you understand who The Word of God is, I have given you this Scripture to compare…. Rev 19:13   And he clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.   Rev 19:14   And the arm…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2011,00:21)KerwinQuote Jesus is one who fulfills that desire as well as the one through which others fullfil that same desire.  Doing those two things is what makes him the Son of God. I have no idea of what you mean so could you explain ??PierrePierre1)  God desires a people that are righteous as he is righteous as b…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 11 2011,10:48)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2011,23:42)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 10 2011,11:21)KerwinQuote Pierre,Quote  Matthew 22 New International Version (NIV)31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not the Go…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 11 2011,06:15)Bump for Marty……………and also for Kerwin.Quote (942767 @ Aug. 04 2011,09:59)Quote And since Jesus is the FIRSTBORN of this “new creation of God”, do those words mean that Jesus was the FIRST CREATURE EVER to be a part of this “new creation of God”?  YES or NO?Yes Love in Christ,MartyOkay Marty,Now…[Read more]