Marty,Take a look at Acts 15:5 and you will see that there was a Jewish Pharisee sect among the believers.  Some individuals of that sect, but not all, were teaching the heresy that Gentiles must become Jews. Both Jews and Gentiles are to obey the command to love but the Law is God’s Legislation for the children of Israel and the land he gave th…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2012,04:23)tobyQuote 3) Jesus dies on the Cross (Going by your assumptions: Which part of Jesus died? Remember that you said that the Spiritual Body of Jesus (and all) is in the Flesh Body of Jesus)all what dies in a regular man died ,and as men need the intervention of being resurrected so was Christ and that is what…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2012,20:20)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2012,22:03)Even if Paul stated what you say, how do you know what a spiritual body is composed of, except it is not flesh and blood.Kerwin,The question of this thread is whether or not spirit beings, such as angels and Jesus, have bodies in heaven.  It seems we agree they do.Mike,The…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2012,09:59)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2012,21:17)You do not believe that Jesus Anointed comes from heaven because if you did you would understand his words.What scripture says “Jesus ANOINTED” came down from heaven?  The one I know of says “JESUS said he came down from heaven”.Nor does my source imply that “once in a rare…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2012,02:01)KerwinQuote But the bottom line is when a person dies there is no more thoughts or devices or work in the grave where he goes the light are out and stay out until a resurrection occurs. That is why it say “MYSTERY BABYLON the GREAT the MOTHER of HARLOTS and Abominations of the earth.”  These false teachings…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Kerwin, the question asked of Paul in 1 Cor 15 was, “With what kind of body will the dead be raised?”  Paul's answer was, “With a spiritual body like those of heaven have, because flesh and blood cannot inherit God's Kingdom.”Even if Paul stated what you say, how do you know what a spiritual body is composed of, except it is not flesh…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2012,08:27)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2012,18:22)When did you read every single Bible in the history of the world?I made an educated guess.  Be sure to quote the verse your way if you ever find it in a real Bible.From NETNotes:5777 Tense – Aorist The aorist tense is characterized by its emphasis on punctiliar action; that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2012,06:09)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2012,23:28)Be like Jesus Christ in your attitude, who being in the form of God, does not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but empties himself,  having taken the form of a bond-servant, having been made in the likeness of mankind.I placed the evidence before you in order…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Mar. 16 2012,16:03)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2012,17:44)Toby,If a human being's body is turned to ashes their soul, which is spirit in content, descends to Sheol.The same is true of Lot's wife, since Scripture does not state otherwise.Hi Kerwin,So you are saying 'No, the Spirit that was in Lot's wife was not turned into a Pillar of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2012,12:19)Hi KW, Eph 5 points to the marriage like unity in the church with Christ Jesus.1Cor 7 goes into detail in how special and permanent that unity is meant to be.An unbelieving spouse can be saved by the faith of the partner highlighting the bond.Nick,Interesting words. I hope to look more into them.

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2012,11:45)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2012,23:41)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2012,23:34)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2012,10:56)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2012,20:41)Pierre,As you surmised I was using Son to mean Firstborn descendent of David.  Your conception of Jesus being 100% the descendent of David as of the body and…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2012,11:41)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2012,23:34)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2012,10:56)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2012,20:41)Pierre,As you surmised I was using Son to mean Firstborn descendent of David.  Your conception of Jesus being 100% the descendent of David as of the body and 100% the son of God as of the body is…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Mar. 15 2012,02:59)Hi Kerwin,Quote it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual bodyYou are perfectly correct, here. It's so simple to understand.Mikeboll thinks that a “Spiritual Body” is “a Body belonging to a Spirit”.But you will never hear him say that a “Natural Body” is “a Body belonging to a Nature”.I especially like…[Read more]

Mike,You claim that angels have spirit bodies even though no scripture testifies of that.  The closest it comes is spiritual bodies.  That is in 1 Corinthians 15:44 and the word translated spiritual means “pneumatikós (an adjective, derived from 4151 /pneúma, “spirit”) – spiritual; relating to the realm of spirit, i.e. the invisible sphere in whic…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Mar. 16 2012,10:40)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2012,18:41)Don’t you understand how the unbelieving Jews in John 8:37-42 are both the descendents of Abraham as of the body and the children of Satan as of the spirit?Hi Kerwin,Jn.8:37     I ( Jesus )   know you are the seed of Abraham; but you seek to kill me, because my word has no plac…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2012,09:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 16 2012,03:36)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2012,12:39)Mike,I figured that would be clear to those with spiritual understanding as they know that Jesus is still a servant in the form of God's Spirit and the likeness of mankind's body.Jesus became a spirit, Kerwin.  He is no longer in mankind's…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 16 2012,10:56)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 16 2012,20:41)Pierre,As you surmised I was using Son to mean Firstborn descendent of David.  Your conception of Jesus being 100% the descendent of David as of the body and 100% the son of God as of the body is flawed as its ads up to 200% and the total can only be 100%Don’t you un…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 16 2012,03:23)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2012,02:04)Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.Yes Kerwin,What…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 16 2012,03:36)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2012,12:39)Mike,I figured that would be clear to those with spiritual understanding as they know that Jesus is still a servant in the form of God's Spirit and the likeness of mankind's body.Jesus became a spirit, Kerwin.  He is no longer in mankind's body, for one thing.  Read Gal 1…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 16 2012,08:35)There is a “What is the soul?” thread guys.Mike,I am addressing Nick's “His soul/WORD is WHO he is and always will be.” claim. I believe that is in line with this thread.