Quote (Colter @ April 16 2012,06:14)Quote (terraricca @ April 16 2012,10:02)Quote (Colter @ April 16 2012,14:49)Quote (terraricca @ April 16 2012,02:08)colQuote The theory of inherent original sin is not part of Jesus' Gospel.sorry but Christ is the reason for it“forgive them Father, for they know not what they do”colif Christ was not willingly…[Read more]

Nick,From what I read it is a long and complicated treatise that cherry picks scripture:I read nothing of a soul yearning and yet it is written:Psalm 84:2New International Version (NIV)2 My soul yearns, even faints,   for the courts of the LORD;my heart and my flesh cry out   for the living God. Isaiah 26:9New International Version (NIV)9 My s…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,10:39)Hi T, So nothing there about men going to heaven. But you will cling to myths?terraricca,What Nick states is true as you know both that the meek will inherit the earth, Matthew 5:5 and no one who is not meek will inherit the kingdom of God. It is written of those that will inherit the kingdom:Galatians…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 16 2012,10:08)Quote (kerwin @ April 16 2012,21:15)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,09:00)Hi KW, Rom 8Romans 8:21that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.Yes flesh is freed from corruption. But that is not the new body we have been…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,09:50)Hi KW, I await a new bodyNick,That is my hope.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,09:28)Hi KW, Romans 6:17But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.Sin dwells within till we are delivered in water baptismNick,You are correct that the moment a believer receives the Spirit he receives his deliverance from…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,09:19)Hi KW,So?But is it the new one?Nick,There are only two human bodies taught in Scriptures and both are flesh.  Any other, spirit, body is based on speculation which is itself based on false information.For example there is a spiritual body mentioned in Scripture but no spirit body.  The earlier, when m…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 16 2012,09:15)Quote (kerwin @ April 16 2012,11:07)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,05:25)Hi KW,Adam served Satan and all his sons are born into sin. We must all be cleansed, empowered and become overcomersNick,I agree.Hi Kerwin and Nick:This is the truth:Quote Rom 5:12 ¶ Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,09:00)Hi KW, Rom 8Romans 8:21that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.Yes flesh is freed from corruption. But that is not the new body we have been promisedNick,When flesh is freed from corruption it becomes immortal and has…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,06:39)Hi KW, Do you think he decided to become evil at the beginning of genesis?Nick,According to Genesis the Heavens were created at the same time earth was and the Sky was not created till the Second Day.  Satan was not created before the Heavens.  Job 38King James Version (KJV)4Where wast thou when I laid t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,08:33)Hi KW, Flesh returns to corruption and to dust. The new creation is not of flesh.The body is redeemedNick;You are not acting with Wisdom as you wrote:Quote Flesh returns to corruption and to dust.Even though you know it was not that way in the beginning.That is not how a man meek in the sight of God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 16 2012,08:27)I think “our citizenship exists in the heavens” clearly STATES (not “implies”) that men will be citizens of heaven, meaning they will live there.(Remember that Phil 3 is but the first of MANY scriptures and points yet to come.)Mike,You are jumping to conclusions as Paul was a Roman citizen; even as he dwelt…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,06:32)Hi KW, Not what you quoted but the thread.I do not think it is the first either.Nick,You insist on holding to a misunderstanding of a First Century way of speaking even when presented with evidence it is false.  It is quite clear from Scripture that immortal flesh was created to posses the reign of God.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 16 2012,07:01)Quote (kerwin @ April 16 2012,18:06)Quote (terraricca @ April 16 2012,05:47)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,14:37)Hi MB, So no scriptures that say any men will make their abode in heaven.Nonly 144k are redeemed to live in heavenPierre,You are deceived because you do not understand language of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,04:44)Hi KW, You have held your dogma for some years so it is unlikely you will revise your viewsNick,This is what Scripture states:Matthew 22:30King James Version (KJV) 30For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.andMark 12:25King James Version…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,05:07)Hi KW, Your quote of my words is inaccurate. Satan was a murderer from the beginning and that was before he tempted Eve. Satan now is subject to the adopted sons of God and they raid his fiefdom.Nick,He murdered the truth when he tempted Eve.He became a murder of men when Cain slew Abel.Both those events…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,05:25)Hi KW,Adam served Satan and all his sons are born into sin. We must all be cleansed, empowered and become overcomersNick,I agree.

Quote (terraricca @ April 16 2012,05:47)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,14:37)Hi MB, So no scriptures that say any men will make their abode in heaven.Nonly 144k are redeemed to live in heavenPierre,You are deceived because you do not understand language of Scripture.God states he speaks in parables; he does not always state this is a parable.…[Read more]

To all:Lets examine David's words to the effect:While the Bible certainly does hold out that the meek will inherit the earthHere is the definition concordances.org gives.Quote This difficult-to-translate root (pra-) means more than “meek.” Biblical meekness is not weakness but rather refers to exercising God's strength under His control – i.e. d…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,04:43)Hi KW, So nothing there about ORIGINAL SIN.Sin dwells in men and they do naturally serve sin.But The Spirit can make us overcomers and we can be set free by the Son.Nick,It is the result of the original sin that mankind does naturally serve sin because that is how he gained the knowledge of good and…[Read more]