Frank,If you had read what I wrote then you would know I do not support soul sleep but rather support the idea that the body sleeps; having no consciousness; as it departs to Sheol with the soul.Hades is the name of Sheol in Greek.  Hell is the English name some have labeled it.Tartartus is the name of the lowest level of Sheol in Greek.  Some h…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2012,04:23)Hi KW, Yes only for Jesus was it prophesised that his flesh would not corrupt so he was raised in his old body fulfilling the sign of Jonah. We have a new bodyNick,Mosses died and was buried and the location of his burial was known and yet his grave could not be found.  Instead the archangel Michael and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 18 2012,08:13)Quote (kerwin @ April 17 2012,18:56)Judge for yourself; is it an angel or the Spirit of God that arises in the hearts of believers?Point taken, Kerwin.  But since it can be said that God and Jesus “dwell within us”, couldn't it be said that Jesus is the morning star that arises in the hearts of…[Read more]

Terraricca,You call it my opinion when I state that the fruit of the Spirit includes meekness when Galatians 5:23 explicitly states that.  Do you not understand that those who walk by the Spirit reveal the fruit thereof and so are meek?  That is reading comprehension and not an opinion.  Jesus promises the meek will inherit the earth.  Is it my…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 18 2012,08:02)Isaiah 44:19No one stops to think,   no one has the knowledge or understanding to say,“Half of it I used for fuel;   I even baked bread over its coals,   I roasted meat and I ate.Shall I make a detestable thing from what is left?  Shall I bow down to a block of wood?”Does God sound “happy” that people…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2012,05:57)Hi KW, You always have to fall back on your reasoning.Nick,Have you actually tested the reasoning I write down to see if is from me or from God?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 18 2012,06:15)You are right, Kerwin.  God didn't create us with logic and reasoning ability just for us to squander it.  Jesus supports this thought here:2 He replied, “When evening comes, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,’ 3 and in the morning, ‘Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overc…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2012,06:04)Hi KW, Your admiration for the human mind knows no bounds. But it is all vanityNick,You are blinding yourself to the works of God because of your blanket condemnation of logical reasoning.A human being with a godly mind looks like a human being with a human mind.  The human mind it made godly when it walks…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 18 2012,06:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 18 2012,06:38)Then are YOU a “morning star”, Kerwin?  How about me?  Or Nick?Most commentators seem to think it refers to heavenly spirit beings, such as angels.  You don't agree?Mike,In every case it refers to those who live according to the Spirit, have fallen from that estate; or ar…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 18 2012,06:38)Then are YOU a “morning star”, Kerwin?  How about me?  Or Nick?Most commentators seem to think it refers to heavenly spirit beings, such as angels.  You don't agree?Mike,In every case it refers to those who live according to the Spirit, have fallen from that estate; or are maturing into it.  Angels cer…[Read more]

Pierre,You wrote:Quote A soul needs a body to be able to function, left in a state alone without body it is in a sleeping condition, while it is not really sleeping ,spirit do not need to sleep,Why do you believe the soul sleeps when every time the sleep of death is mentioned Scripture is clearly speaking of the body from which the soul has…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 18 2012,06:11)And what does it mean in Job?Mike,try one filled with the Spirit of God at all mentions.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 17 2012,12:41)Hi KW, You preach a mixture of human and sacred wisdom. Salty and fresh water?UnpalatableNick,You accuse me of mixing the word of Man with the Word of God and yet did not answer my question and bring present what you believed is flawed that we may examine it.Look back on my post and reveal what you believe…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 17 2012,12:42)Hi KW, Is murdering the truth of human wisdom?Nick,An untruth is the result of the murder of the truth. Human wisdom is that wisdom that falls short of the glory of God.Human wisdom is the result of the murder of the truth.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2012,05:22)Hi KW, You think it was his natural mind and not the work of the Spirit?Why glorify man?Nick,I know that despite appearances; God was using logical reasoning through him.  Those that heard him; after the ways of the flesh,  heard only a human being reasoning. God uses human vessels to reason with men.We a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2012,05:02)Hi KW,You say”then he is in agreement with logical reasoning that is based on the principles of the Holy Spirit” Best to find what He teaches rather than hoping He agrees with our varieties of human wisdomNick,Jesus came as a human being and used logical reasoning to interpret Scripture in order to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2012,04:43)Hi KW You say”A human soul without flesh is naked; a naked soul is dead; a dead soul is a ghost; a departed spirit.” Where is a dead naked soul shown?Nick,I pointed to several scriptures where a soul without a body is called a ghost; departed spirit; shade.Here are a few verses where it is called a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,12:20)Quote (kerwin @ April 17 2012,23:27)Pierre,It is speaking of the redemption of creation; of which we including our bodies are part; even as it is written:Romans 8New International Version (NIV)22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 17 2012,11:37)hi KW, Does your logic rule over the verses shown?Nick,Is God irrational?If the answer is no; then he is in agreement with logical reasoning that is based on the principles of the Holy Spirit.A human soul without flesh is naked; a naked soul is dead; a dead soul is a ghost; a departed spirit.These are some…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2012,03:54)Hi KW You say”Do you agree with all the words of those you post?  It is not the soul that sleeps but the body; that rests in the dust of the ground” The old body corrupts and returns to DUST.Nick,The consciousness(soul) departs from the body with death. What is sleep but an altered consciousness.  Since I b…[Read more]