kerwin replied to the topic The word is really the holyspirit in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
Nick,
By grace we are saved and by grace Jesus satisfied the demands of the law.
That is not written though it is essentially equivalent to the idea that God prevented him from sinning and it has the same flaw. The flaw being that he then not be tempted as is common to humanity.
Jesus is the Author of our faith. He was first to receive and walk…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic The word is really the holyspirit in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
AndrewAD,
“By his rebirth at the Jordan and walking in the Spirit he was a Son of God according to the Spirit.” So Jesus got born again by holy water just like we do! That is just too cool fool !!
That is Nick’s and perhaps Gene’s hypothesis but I and others disagree.
It is disproved by the fact that Jesus never sinned though tempted as is com…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic The word is really the holyspirit in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years ago
AndrewAD,
“By his rebirth at the Jordan and walking in the Spirit he was a Son of God according to the Spirit.” So Jesus got born again by holy water just like we do! That is just too cool fool !!
That is Nick’s and perhaps Gene’s hypothesis but I and others disagree.
It neither tests true or false so it remains a hypothesis.
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
AndrewAD,
The word fundy is derogatory and often used by the insincere and unbelievers. Avoid using words that serve no good purpose.
I cannot see where a person that walks according to the Spirit would use it though some might think the words such a person would use are worse. For example brood of vipers, i.e. those that lie to the harm of…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic The Real History of Israel's Origins in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 10 years ago
t8,
I have not watched it but if it is attempting to prove that the Arabs left the land around one of there Holy sited abandoned then it is full of garbage. Israel is a land of milk and honey and there have been people, including Jews and Arabs, dwelling in it for many years. There may have been a large influx of colonists to the area prior to…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic The Real History of Israel's Origins in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 10 years ago
AndrewAD,
There is an artifact from Egypt that gives an account of Egyptians running into a nomadic people in Egypt that sound like the Hebrews so it is doubtful they are decedents of the saddled Canaanites that were native of the land.
There migration from Egypt would have taken place around the time of the Bronze Age collapse. Some believe…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
Nick,
Most people who are literalists pick and choose what they they choose what they take literally.
Your point is valid.
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
Ed,
One thing I noticed in many translations is that they do not call animal living souls despite that being the literal translation in some verses. I suppose that is because they agree with the false doctrine that animals to not have souls. Animals are soulish creatures and so have souls but they are not spiritual creatures. A teaching that…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
Ed,
I use different versions because of several reasons including the fact that most translations are of inconsistent quality. There are certainly other reason such as the religious bias of the translators.
I often use the 19th Century standardized version of the AV of the KJV because of traditionalist. It is similar to speaking Latin to the…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
Ed,
No, it not a false statement to claim your words hint that you put your trust in translators since your claim relied on them being trustworthy. If they are trustworthy then miia’s claim requires being addressed with other words that support there choice to include words that are not written in the original language.
In my experience they…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 10 years ago
Ed,
Could you strive to be more peaceful?
“anything to dodge a question” are unnecessary words even if it is true and suspicion does not equal guilt.
There is a time for harsher words but good communications is often ruined by them.
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 10 years ago
Ed,
Pretty much and post to you as I think as I post and therefore they are apt to develop.
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
Miia,
Hi Miia,
Funny how when you disagree with something, you
all of sudden know more than ALL the translators.Ed infers he puts his trust in the translators but it is probably not misplaced this time as Koine Greek has a fair share of implied words.
You are correct that those implied words are one place biases can creep in and therefore…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
Ed,
No I don’t claim there are two Spirits that are God – of course Christ has his own spirit just like you have you own spirit.
“WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him” (John 14:23)
1. Spirit of God
2. Spirit of ChristI did not say Spirit’ that is God. I said Spirit like the passage does. It is implied that the Spirit comes f…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 10 years ago
Ed,
You should read my whole post as that would give you more insight into what I am trying to say.
I admit I have not yet learned to make my explanations short in every case.
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
Ed,
Here is a yes and no question.
Since you claim there is two Spirits do you believe that Ephesians 2:14 is wrong to claim there is only one?
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
Ed,
Miia found this one where Paul first addresses the Spirit as the Spirit of God and then as the Spirit of Christ.
Romans 8:9-11Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ…
kerwin replied to the topic Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years ago
Ed,
Whose goings have been from everlasting shall come forth out of Bethlehem
There is two mentions of Bethlehem in Micah 5:2 though the second one is implied.
Scripture teaches us elsewhere that God planned Jesus’ going forth from Bethlehem before the world began. (Titus 1:2 and 1 Timothy 1:9)
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 10 years ago
Ed,
Your last post to miia is a vast improvement.
I assume you are speaking of either flesh is fathered by flesh and spirit is fathered by God, who himself walks by the Spirit.
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 10 years ago
Miia,
Your are welcome miia, but I must confess I did it more for Ed than you. I hope he learns that it is not necessary to brow beat others into agreement but rather to address disagreement in a way that treats them how he should want be treated. I believe others on this site could learn from it as well. We will if our hope is to grow into…[Read more]
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