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    Quote (Colter @ Mar. 12 2013,17:15)It all makes more since if you consider the possibility that the Adam and Eve story is from the surviving fragments of a much older story relating to the events of two incarnate celestial beings who arrived on a previously populated earth as part of a redemption mission only to fail due to a flank attack by “the…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2013,07:40)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 10 2013,04:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,15:27)Kerwin, do you believe the Holy Spirit is ONE Son of God, and Jesus is a completely DIFFERENT Son of God?Mike,As is common to man, you see what you want to see. 2beesee and I choose see something different than you.  Okay.  Now could y…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2013,07:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 10 2013,13:28)Oh brother! If wisdom is given at any time, it is brought forth from within.You didn't say “given”.  You said “born”.  Show me a scripture that says wisdom was born.Mike,Do you want the literal words or will the idea do?

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2013,07:48)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 10 2013,10:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,19:05)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 09 2013,21:03)i believe the son is and alway was in  God Father because the same preexisting Spirit But are you talking about JESUS?  Or are you talking about this OTHER son of God, the Holy S…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 12 2013,09:07)Kerwin,Please DIRECTLY answer the question I asked.Thanks.Mike,Your question is too vague.  In what sense are you using “born”?If you are asking if a man can enter into his mother's inner parts once more then hypothetically he can because all things are possible with God.  Can a man stop being so he can be c…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,10:09)Kerwin,Can people be BORN again?  YES or NO?Mike,Can a man reenter his mother's inner parts and be born again?Can he become an non-conceived egg waiting for the power of Jehovah to cause him to be?

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,15:27)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 09 2013,23:55)2beesee,I have shown my reasoning for believing Scripture calls the Spirit the Son at times.Did you show scriptures that clearly teach of such a thing, Kerwin?  Because if you did, I sure didn't notice them.  Perhaps you can help 2B out with his assignment now by listing j…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 10 2013,11:15)Mike,I cannot give you the scriptures one by one because it is the scriptures as a whole. What you ask is impossible, unless you want to go through the entire bible with me??What we each learn as truth only God can show us. Why do you think that man goes astray? They may feel safe in their beliefs, but is this…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,05:41)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 09 2013,16:24)Mike,Do others include beasts?If the word “beasts” included everything from rats to great apes, the perhaps it could also included a human-LIKE being, who was not quite “adam”.Mike,Is humanity a hybrid beast/man?What makes a living soul a man instead of a beast?

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,05:33)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,12:36)I spent hours on that showing you so many verses on wisdom in Proverbs and NONE of them supports the idea of a 'created' wisdom but you seem to ignore that, you just want to hang your hat on the weak peg-the translators of the NET…….How many support the idea of a…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,05:14)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 09 2013,15:50)Mike,I appended a link to the online NT recovery bible that actually makes the case that they are indeed related.Kerwin,In Romans, Paul is talking about how, if we live according to God, and His Spirit dwells in us, that Spirit will quicken the mortal bodies we are now…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2013,06:57)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2013,03:25)Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 06 2013,19:15)Hi MikeWhere does it say that there were others in the Land of Nod?Hi Journey42, What Mike is referring to is who are these people Cain is fearful of slewing him?Gen 4..from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,05:59)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,22:17)Mike,Neanderthals and Denisovans are said to crossbred with Cromagnons.  They have some DNA to support the claim.Fair enough, Kerwin.But my point is:  In evolutionary theory, there existed “humanoids” BEFORE there existed what we call “homo sapiens”.Could there have e…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 10 2013,04:04)Mike , 2beese, and all,Quote 1 Corinthians 15:44it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.What does “spiritual body” mean?It means ual body.A Spirit quickened body as opposed to a soul quickened body.Romans 8:11King James Version (KJV)11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,04:19)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 09 2013,15:04)Mike , 2beese, and all,Quote 1 Corinthians 15:44it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.What does “spiritual body” mean?It means ual body.A Spirit quickened body as opposed to a soul quickened body.Romans 8:11King James Version (KJV)11 But if the Spirit of…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2013,04:10)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 10 2013,04:04)Mike , 2beese, and all,Quote 1 Corinthians 15:44it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.What does “spiritual body” mean?It means ual body.A Spirit quickened body as opposed to a soul quickened body.Romans 8:11King James Version (KJV)11 But if the Spirit of…[Read more]

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    Mike , 2beese, and all,Quote 1 Corinthians 15:44it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.What does “spiritual body” mean?It means ual body.A Spirit quickened body as opposed to a soul quickened body.Romans 8:11King James Version (KJV)11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 09 2013,01:46)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 08 2013,04:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 08 2013,10:55)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,23:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 08 2013,09:06)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,06:29)LU,Quote I do not see Jesus as the remnant because He never stopped serving God but the remnant apparently had in that verse since…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,10:55)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,20:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2013,08:31)COULD the statement, “Give to me now that thing I HAD with you before” be referring to something the speaker ACTUALLY HAD with the other person before?  YES or NO?  (Answer HONESTLY, Kerwin)Mike,The context of Scripture does not allow f…[Read more]

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    Mike,Quote 1.  Am I correct that a father's part in the begetting process is the act of conception – when the seed impregnates the egg?  YES or NO?Sometimes.Quote ABSTRACTFocuses on British geneticists' discovery of a boy whose body is derived in part from an unfertilized egg. Implications of the discovery into the control of human development a…[Read more]

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