Gene,Scripture calls even idols gods, so in some way they are the one God.  An idol is obviously not the same kind as God, nor is an ant, an angel, or a human even though Scripture calls them god. I can call a human a beast and a cat a beast and yet the human is a beast in its action while the cat is a beast in kind.I get the impression that some…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2013,13:32)Quote (kerwin @ July 10 2013,13:12)T,There is no clause “lesser god” in Scripture.  The meaning of god when applied to Jehovah is different when than when applied to a man or an angel.  When he says there is no gods but him then he is using an exclusive meaning that does not apply to anyone else. When S…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2013,06:45)Quote (kerwin @ July 10 2013,17:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2013,05:46)Quote (kerwin @ July 09 2013,17:15)Mike,It does not say that.  It states its “root” means …Actually Kerwin, It says that ELOHIM comes from the Hebrew ROOT “el”, which means “mighty” or “power”.  “El” is the root they're talking a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2013,03:49)Quote (kerwin @ July 11 2013,02:13)Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2013,07:29)Quote (kerwin @ July 10 2013,05:51)Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2013,05:47)SCRIPTURES PLEASE T,Do a search of Melchizedek on the KJV at biblegateway.comKyou ask me to search for you claims not a chance ,you claim thing event inventing…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2013,05:18)Quote (kerwin @ July 10 2013,14:37)Mike,Evidence points to him being king in the land of Canaan. I've seen no evidence that he is a Canaanite king.  Plus, there is explicit evidence that his lineage is unknown – an odd feat if he were a famous descendant of Canaan, don't you think?Quote (kerwin @ July 10…[Read more]

T,James 1:17King James Version (KJV)17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.Did John the Baptist come from above or below?

T,Both Mike and T8 desire we keep our posts brief which is why I modified mine to remove duplicated context.  You responded to the unmodified one first.You fail to understand that true Christianity is a Jewish sect and not a new religion according to Scripture.  The Saducees were another sect at that time.Acts 5:17King James Version (KJV)17 Then t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2013,04:53)Quote (kerwin @ July 10 2013,01:39)I am tired and hope to cover more later.Okay.  I am anxious to see how this understanding follows through with the scriptures themselves.Mike,I hope that you are getting to understand how a Jew of the first century uses words.  Even as Philo uses archangel to describe the W…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2013,04:07)Quote (kerwin @ July 11 2013,02:53)T,I am pointing out that the Jews had Divine Word doctrines that held the Word was an archangel, but not a person, in the same century that a Jew named John wrote the first chapter of John. You are following a doctrine that twists the Jewish Divine Word doctrines to make the…[Read more]

2besee,Is heaven visible or invisible?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2013,05:46)Quote (kerwin @ July 09 2013,17:15)Mike,It does not say that.  It states its “root” means …Actually Kerwin, It says that ELOHIM comes from the Hebrew ROOT “el”, which means “mighty” or “power”.  “El” is the root they're talking about.Mike,El is a shortened form of 'ayil which means ram, strong man, and o…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 10 2013,08:59)Quote (kerwin @ July 09 2013,13:15)Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2013,05:04)Quote (kerwin @ July 07 2013,09:36)To all,The error of the Quran is its teachings are powerless to make its adherents righteous as Allah is righteous.  Many of those who claim to go be Scripture have doctrines that are in a like…[Read more]

LU,Quote 3. The Prince is truly royalty in his own kingdom but after emptying his access to his money and dressing completely different, like a pauper…he sets out to another kingdom where people will not believe that he is royalty in a kingdom far away because he has no riches, no striking appearance, and lives like a pauper even though he tells…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2013,13:56)Quote (kerwin @ July 10 2013,13:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2013,06:10)Okay Kerwin,I think it's time we hear your understanding from start to finish.You are now saying the Word is some demiurge other than Jesus.  Do you still think this demiurge is the “Holy Spirit Son of God”?  Or have you moved on to y…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2013,06:34)Quote (kerwin @ July 09 2013,17:35)Mike,Melchizedek king of Salem also worships the most high El………..And was he a descendant of Canaan?  If not, then what is your point?Kerwin, is there a scripture that says any Canaanite ever worshiped Jehovah as their El?  If so, show it to me.  If not, then just ac…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2013,07:29)Quote (kerwin @ July 10 2013,05:51)Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2013,05:47)SCRIPTURES PLEASE T,Do a search of Melchizedek on the KJV at biblegateway.comKyou ask me to search for you claims not a chance ,you claim thing event inventing them ,finding arguments on half words or half letters ,and now you send me…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2013,06:10)Okay Kerwin,I think it's time we hear your understanding from start to finish.You are now saying the Word is some demiurge other than Jesus.  Do you still think this demiurge is the “Holy Spirit Son of God”?  Or have you moved on to yet another understanding?  (You've gone through so many of them in the la…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ July 10 2013,12:54)kerwin,it is writtenChrist Lived Before the World Was Made1 The Word (Christ) was in the beginning. The Word was with God. The Word was God.NLVit is not written that the HS is the word in john 1.1make your own bibleJammin,I have not claimed the HS is the Word for a while though it is the way the Word is…[Read more]

T,There is no clause “lesser god” in Scripture.  The meaning of god when applied to Jehovah is different when than when applied to a man or an angel.  When he says there is no gods but him then he is using an exclusive meaning that does not apply to anyone else. When Scripture states Jehovah is gods of gods he using the first gods as a singular a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2013,20:20)Kerwin……A God is not just a mighty one, that does not make a God of any kind it must also entail what a person trusts in. Scriptures tells us God is not a man, that he should lie, or a son of man that he should repent. The original Hebrew pictorial symbol for God had TWO parts, one was the the symbol…[Read more]