T8,Quote “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heavenIn the first instance create is used in Scripture the physical world is first createdGenesis 1:1Authorized…[Read more]

2besee,I do not say I am saved for the same reason I do not say I am not saved and that is because I am not the judge of that matter. Our job is to believe God loves us and wants us to be saved on that day and to strive by faith to do all he commands. The rest is up to him.

2besee,Quote The only time I get fired up at times is on forums. I mean, in real life I have not encountered other Christians telling me or others that they are lost and not saved, have you?Being anonymous encourage people to talk more freely and I find writing on a computer aids me to keep more cool than I am by nature.  A person that tells you…[Read more]

2besee,It is best to forgive the harsh words others say to you and turn the other cheek and not return evil for evil. If they continue in their sin that is on them but if you are lured into sin then Satan has enslaved you. Be careful of the heart behind your words. Do not let bitterness turn it dark. Strive to speak lovingly even to those who…[Read more]

Mike,I know of two English translations that translate the passage to mortal bodies cannot enter the kingdom and so the passage is not definite prove your chosen interpretation is correct. Both translators claim that flesh and blood were a way people of the time Scripture was written spoke of mortal bodies. It is a common way of speech in…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 27 2013,05:18)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 26 2013,19:28)Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 26 2013,13:44)Quote (2besee @ Sep. 26 2013,16:46)Kerwin, I believe that those who deny that Jesus was raised in the flesh, are in a way, denying the resurrection.Read 1 Corinthians 15 to get a better idea.If a body is raised spirit, then what is…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 27 2013,01:09)“….to explain why angels could both eat and be touched.”–kerwinCan angels both eat (physical food) and be touched (by a physical person)?David,Yes, as they are observed doing both when visiting Lot's home just prior to the destruction of Sodom.Genesis 19:3Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)3 And he pressed…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 27 2013,00:59)https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=4443;hl=puzzleThe thread above “Jesus' resurrection–a puzzle” while not focusing on this verse, at least gives the reasons for the other perspective.David,The 4th icon on the left side of the toolbar is http:// links and allows you a better way to…[Read more]

Quote So you dont believe in Genesis ch.6.Where the fallen angels mated with humans.How can you;for it will only contradict your doctrine.But yet, you believe that angels are made of flesh.And so is Jesus ,because he can eat and drink.I believe in Genesis 6 where the sons of godly Seth marry the mere human daughters of corrupt Cain.  I know of…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 26 2013,12:09)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 04 2013,12:34)Quote (david @ Sep. 04 2013,05:56)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 02 2013,20:01)David,Scripture does not say the witch of Endor used fraud.  Stating all psychics are frauds is a logically unsound unless each and every one of them has been tested and been found to be frauds by reliable…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 26 2013,13:44)Quote (2besee @ Sep. 26 2013,16:46)Kerwin, I believe that those who deny that Jesus was raised in the flesh, are in a way, denying the resurrection.Read 1 Corinthians 15 to get a better idea.If a body is raised spirit, then what is different about the resurrection? Nothing. See the denial?JWs (and some here)…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2013,10:52)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 26 2013,15:36)Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2013,09:24)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 26 2013,09:07)There are some here that in order to cling to the erroneous doctrine that spirits can eat and drink deny that Jesus gave evidence that he was not a spirit after his resurrection by allowing himself to be…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Sep. 26 2013,10:18)Wakeup thinks that Jesus is being a deceiver. He does not believe that Jesus was flesh, therefore, wakeup denies the flesh, just like the JWs do. Jesus is not the deceiver, those who deny his flesh are.2besee,I see it that way as well.

Quote (2besee @ Sep. 26 2013,10:03)Quote This topic is if a spirit can either be touchedor can eat then Jesus is a deceiver.Kerwin,Spirits cannot be touched or eat, and that is what Jesus pointed out – that he was not a spirit. So, in this you are correct.And Jesus was NOT being deceitful. He did NOT just take on the “appearance of flesh”, but…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 26 2013,09:24)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 26 2013,09:07)There are some here that in order to cling to the erroneous doctrine that spirits can eat and drink deny that Jesus gave evidence that he was not a spirit after his resurrection by allowing himself to be touched and eating.Luke 24:39-43Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)39…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Sep. 26 2013,08:19)Kerwin, Good topic.Obviously Jesus was flesh. The antichrist denies the flesh, Jehovah's Witnesses deny the flesh, as do some here.My question is: What is Jesus now?Jesus is here in spirit, do you agree?2besee,It does not sound like I agree but words can be interpreted in various ways. Jesus is a man, even now,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 26 2013,08:01)Kerwin………..well put, angels are not spirit “beings” a they have bodies with spirits God put in those bodies of theirs. Jesus has the flesh and bone body he was raised up with, and will come back to this earth with that same body also. IMOPeace and love to you and…[Read more]

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 25 2013,07:15)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 24 2013,18:28)Angels are do have the ministering “inner quality or nature”Does it say angels ARE ministering spirits?  Or angels HAVE ministering spirits?Kerwin, I'm done with this nonsense.  If you want to think angels have flesh in heaven, then I'll just roll my eyes and leave you to i…[Read more]