Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,23:43)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,00:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2013,03:47)Interesting.   What about John 17:24?  It is part of the same passage.  Where do you think Jesus wants them be with him – so they can see that glory God has given him?  In God's presence in heaven?  Or on earth, away from God?…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,23:38)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,00:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2013,03:37)Kerwin, Are you continuing to insist that the word of God didn't come to angels – after I just posted one scripture that proves you wrong – and pointed you to a second one? Did you read Rev 1:1 like I asked you to?Mike,Revelation 1:1…[Read more]

Wakeup,I know how the word was made flesh because God told us that he would put his word in his people and write it on their heart.  Scripture tells us Jesus is the Author(origin) of our faith and we are told to follow him.  We follow him by doing what he originated and have the word placed in us and written on our heart. Jesus is the first of h…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,08:51)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 27 2013,06:39)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,01:15)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 27 2013,06:06)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,01:00)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 27 2013,05:10)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,20:53)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,04:04)Mike, Wakeup, Journey,Quote The earliest Christians actually had…[Read more]

T,Is this better?Jesus was not using a false doctrine to express an idea as that would be supporting what is false. Therefore he was describing the actual land of the dead in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus (God will help).

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,08:46)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 27 2013,09:56)Wakeup, I am using this passage and the fact the letter does not change in order to continue to express the same ideas it once did as well as the fact it is not interactive.2 Corinthians 3:6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)6 who also hath made us able ministers of the new…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,01:48)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 27 2013,05:33)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,14:36)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,18:00)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,19:18)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 25 2013,14:54)Wakeup,Quote THERE IS NO PERSON IN BETWEEN GOD AND HIS WORD IN HEAVEN. That strange as Scripture states otherwise as the man Jesus, who…[Read more]

Wakeup, I am using this passage and the fact the letter does not change in order to continue to express the same ideas it once did as well as the fact it is not interactive.2 Corinthians 3:6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)6 who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter…[Read more]

T,Quote SCRIPTURES TELL US THAT THE RIGHTEOUS DO NOT LAY WITH THE WICKED IN DEAD ;I do not view the description of Hades in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man to be allegorical because it was a First Century doctrine among the Jewish people.   I do not see Jesus using a false doctrine, even allegorically.  Jesus soul rested in comfort while t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,02:21)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,02:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2013,02:14)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 25 2013,14:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2013,02:07)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 25 2013,13:55)Mike assumes that the words water, clouds, etc. are speaking of heaven at the same time he criticizes me for assuming.In the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,01:15)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 27 2013,06:06)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,01:00)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 27 2013,05:10)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,20:53)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,04:04)Mike, Wakeup, Journey,Quote The earliest Christians actually had those oldest and best mss to learn from.Many saw the holy language as…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,00:54)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 27 2013,05:19)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,15:20)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,10:35)Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 26 2013,04:52)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,04:23)Journey, Wakeup, and anyone else that is concerned,Quote Paul was not sure when telling the story if this man was “in the body, or out…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,01:00)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 27 2013,05:10)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,20:53)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,04:04)Mike, Wakeup, Journey,Quote The earliest Christians actually had those oldest and best mss to learn from.Many saw the holy language as Latin and there was most likely a movement that saw translating Scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,14:36)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,18:00)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,19:18)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 25 2013,14:54)Wakeup,Quote THERE IS NO PERSON IN BETWEEN GOD AND HIS WORD IN HEAVEN. That strange as Scripture states otherwise as the man Jesus, who gave his life up for his brothers came to help humans.   Hebrews…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 26 2013,15:31)I personally believe that Paradise is the part outside the City of God. It has mansions 'dwellings' and the river of life that flows from the throne of God and into the city then flows into paradise. Eden was so named Paradise because it is an image of Paradise. While there was likely rivers of water in Eden, in the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,15:20)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,10:35)Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 26 2013,04:52)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,04:23)Journey, Wakeup, and anyone else that is concerned,Quote Paul was not sure when telling the story if this man was “in the body, or out of the body” as it was over 14 years ago for him.That is an untruth…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2013,20:53)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,04:04)Mike, Wakeup, Journey,Quote The earliest Christians actually had those oldest and best mss to learn from.Many saw the holy language as Latin and there was most likely a movement that saw translating Scripture to English and other languages to be of the devil.Kerwin.I know that…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 18 2013,13:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2013,10:28)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 17 2013,15:18)This will take some time because I like to be thorough to make sure that people FULLY understand why I believe what I believe.Ed,Nobody was ever asking for a lengthy explanation of your doctrines.The facts of the matter is that YOU SAID Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,19:18)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 25 2013,14:54)Wakeup,Quote THERE IS NO PERSON IN BETWEEN GOD AND HIS WORD IN HEAVEN. That strange as Scripture states otherwise as the man Jesus, who gave his life up for his brothers came to help humans.   Hebrews 2:17-18Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)17 Wherefore in all things it…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 26 2013,12:38)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 26 2013,11:59)T,Jesus' soul went to Hades when he fell asleep.  Stephen's did as well as it is the common destination of the souls of the dead.Acts 2:27American Standard Version (ASV)27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul unto Hades, Neither wilt thou give thy Holy One to see…[Read more]