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    To those that want to understand prophetic utterance as if they were speaking of what has already been accomplished,

    Revelation 13:8Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    Was Jesus slain…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    Hebrews 1:6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

    This tells the first begotten was not worshiped by angels before God brought him into the world. So if the first begotten is Jesus and he preexisted as you claim…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    Jn 1:15 John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ ”

    The pronoun “he” is referring to the word. The flesh it is united with at the time is a characteristic. Jesus is that flesh.

    It is a figurative narration, a beautiful picture…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    Some places where you add to Scripture.

    Genesis 1

    Jesus is not mentioned Genesis 1 though you want him to be there. Instead God, his word, and his Spirit are all mentioned.

    Let us refers to the Unity as it existed which is one God, one word spoken by God, one Spirit, and one body that was composed of angels.

    The presence of the…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    t8 like you, fails to understand the unity. If he and you did not then you would come to the correct understanding of numerous passages that teach us about the unity and Jesus’s role in it. In your case it may be because you do not understand the Spirit.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    I am having a headache and it seems my grammar is suffering in response.

    I am sorry I did not include all the words needed for my question to be understood. I have stated it twice before and believe both times I included all the words.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terraricca,

    ED/K

    you seem not to want to understand truth ,you like your opinions so be it ,

    Kerwin

    the humble spirit of a man his the same as a proud man spirit it comes from the soul of the person ,but is not the person until the person becomes that spirit ,do you understand what i saying ?

    we make choices and when we apply those…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    I notice you not quote this hypothetical passage that states Jesus is the word. I have never found such a passage.

    The closest you can get is John 1:14 which states the word was made flesh. Flesh is made of flesh even as Jesus was made of Mary, the seed of David. So it is correct to say the word is Jesus. In even stating I am…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Miia,

    Religion has lied to you, Jesus is not “The Word”

    Knowing about God is not having a personal relationship with him. Anyone can talk about God.

    In him all things hold together, and you say he is not The Word?

    Christians do not have a personal relationship with God since they go through Jesus Christ. A personal relationship doe…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    I am asking you about the meaning of spirit in Proverbs 16:19. You quoted from a version translated the word spirit to one and I asked if you believe spirit meant person in that context.

    Proverbs 29:23Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    23
    A man’s pride shall bring him low:
    but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    Are saying spirit means person?

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    To answer what Spirit is in the unity of the Spirit I will ask the question below. Once you answer is then you know what “Spirit” means in the unity.

    Proverbs 16:19Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    19
    Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly,
    than to divide the spoil with the proud.

    What does spirit mean in…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    You seem not to understand this passage, or more specifically how these parties are unified.

    Ephesians 4:1-6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    4 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, 2 with all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    I am sorry as my explanations may have become too esoteric for you. Jesus that he is in God and God is in him. It is equivalent saying the Word that comes out of God’s mouth is in me and I am in the word. Yet another way is for him to say “the Spirit is in me and I am in the Spirit”.

    When Scripture says the Son it can be speaking…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    You said Colossians but Hebrews 1:3 is where Jesus is figuratively spoke of by the title Son. In that passage it states ‘who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person’ which is still talking about the word that was made flesh.

    It does bring me in mind of the tripartite and bipartite nature of humanity.…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    You must not know Scripture for the Unity of the Spirit is spoken of in Ephesians and in case so is the facts that angels celebrated as God created. There is no mention of your preexistent Christ.

    I see you have admitted that one can carry the title of God’s first born son.

    Seek to continue to humble and perhaps God will have mercy…[Read more]

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    Terrarica,

    When you deny that Jesus call his fellow Jew a son Abraham by faith as well as by humanity I see no reason to argue. It would be like arguing that someone whom claimed water is dry.

    You already know your conclusions but you hold to them because they have become dear to you. There is a point when denial is no longer healthy.

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    Terrarica,

    The Holy Spirit was there at creation and it covered the earth for it hovered over it. God speaks his word the Spirit movers and all things are created that have been created.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Teraricca,

    Jesus was not yet part of the unity of the Spirit and he yet to be conceived of Mary. The angels were there and were also part of the Unity. The same Unity God is part of. Let “us”, as in the Unity, create man in our own image and likeness. God did the creating and the angels celebrated. The Spirit and the word were also involved…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 10 months ago

    Terrarica,

    Jesus is not a female.

    The logos is the image, which is why John wrote the word is God.

    The image was made Jesus.

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