kerwin replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago
Nick
Hi KW,
Perishable means can perish not will perish.You sound like a lawyer, in their playing games to words in hopes of making the law debatable.
Merriam-Webster states:
likely to spoil or decay quickly : not likely to stay fresh for a long time if not eaten or used
To be perishable humankind would have to have a sell by date. In…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago
Nick,
Hi GB,
You are welcome to your perishable body.
I prefer the promises.
Genesis 2:23Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
So according to you both Eve and Adam have a perishable body at this time.…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 12 years ago
Ed,
Hi Kerwin,
Employees be obedient to them that are your Bosses according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as unto Christ.
That works as whether slaves or free a servant is equivalent to an employee.
My point is that the bosses rule the body while the heart is ruled by Christ.
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 12 years ago
Nick,
So the Kingdom of God that is Israel and the Kingdom of God that we inherit are two different kingdoms?
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 12 years ago
Nick, Ed,
Also note this Scripture.
Ephesians 6:5Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 12 years ago
Nick,
You know the Scripture calls Israel the kingdom of the Lord and you should also know that is another way of saying the kingdom of God.
Yet humans whose body was flesh and blood were members of Israel and so the kingdom of God.
Since was there flesh and blood bodies in the kingdom of God or not?
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 12 years ago
Nick,
Reason can only detect breaks in a doctrine. The Spirit is necessary to determine which doctrine that is not broken is the true doctrine and it is necessary to have faith in the truth.
A broken doctrine is either incomplete or it is false. An incomplete doctrine is false until it is made whole.
kerwin replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago
Nick,
They use the word changed just like 1 Corinthians 15:52 does and Paul is not contradicting himself. He was just saying the same thing in too different ways. Even you will admit that “imperishable must be put over the perishable” is no longer imperishable but had instead changed just like translators of those two versions interpreted the message.
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 12 years ago
Ed,
Perhaps Jesus was saying that the the kingdom of heaven is composed of all believers, even those whose belief will prove false on that day, in the parable of the net. That could also explain the fact that Israel is called the kingdom of the Lord. The kingdom of heaven could therefore be the body of Christ.
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 12 years ago
Nick,
Hi KW,
Do you define miracles by your observations?
Was not everything about his resurrection miraculous or only that which your mind cannot compass?
I see no reason to outside what is written.
kerwin replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago
Nick,
Try these interpretation-translations on for size.
1 Corinthians 15:53Good News Translation (GNT)
53 For what is mortal must be changed into what is immortal; what will die must be changed into what cannot die.
1 Corinthians 15:53GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
53 This body that decays must be changed into a body that cannot decay. T…
kerwin replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago
Nick,
Are you saying one body is put over the other?
Scripture instead say believers are changed.
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 12 years ago
Nick,
Hi KW,
IN THE MIND OF GOD?
Did you make that up?
It is predestination and foreknowledge. A body does not already exist as Scripture states the the person will change. It also does not teach of a person being reincarnated.
God does not have a bunch of bodies already laying up in heaven waiting for that day. In fact the dead will…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 12 years ago
Ed J,
That is not really my definition but rather a puzzle I supplied that is based on Scripture.
The kingdom of heaven is like a net which catches both good and bad fishes. As far as I know the bad fishes can be heretics as well as liars, murderers, thieves, or any other type of those that choose to live by the flesh. The Jews that deny…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 12 years ago
Ed J, T, and Nick.
2) Our “spirit” enters the Kingdom of God, not our bodies.
Remember, Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world (meaning not of flesh and blood)Some would argue the kingdom of heaven is of this world for first it was Israel as Scripture calls the Israel the kingdom of the Lord and then it became the church after Israel rej…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 12 years ago
T,
the human is made of dust and the seed that is planted in that dust should grow and bring forth a new plant born of the spirit ,and so no longer dust ,right ? yes
The seed is plant fiber and the plant that comes up is the same composition but it is changed in other ways.
It only after Adam sinned that God told him as part of his judgment…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 12 years ago
Nick,
The blood of Jesus was poured out unto water at Calvary.
Life is in the blood.
He never claimed to be of blood but only flesh and bones after being raised.
His life is in the Spirit.
Do you think we will rise bloodless like him?
A mortal man does not live long without blood nor does he live long being mortal wounds that killed…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 12 years ago
Nick,
Your own ideas add little to truth do they not?
I proposed some ideas I have not tested but then I do not say they are true since I do not yet know whether or not they are. I just told you what I know though perhaps not all of it as Jesus speaks of only a place of the wicked dead and a place of the righteous dead and Tartarus is a part…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago
Nick,
There is no problem agreeing with those words nor is there a problem admitting that the present flesh body creation is subject to corruption since it is a part of creation that Scripture states is subject to corruption and therefore perishable. The difficulty you seem to experience is believing it can be freed from being perishable and so…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 12 years ago
Nick,
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom
That is one clause of the whole sentence. Why don’t you ever use the whole sentence?
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