Nick,

Hi KW,
So how would your ideas explain what Jesus was teaching Thomas?

Acts 1:3Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

3 to whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

He was showing Thomas he was alive…[Read more]

Nick,

It is how the English language is used. The Koine Greek is different as into and onto can be the same word. If you misunderstand what is written then you come up with the wrong message. From what I have heard misunderstandings are fairly common.

Nick,

Hi KW,
The natural body is earthy
The new body is from heaven, heavenly.

Do you mean earthly as in of this world and heavenly as in not of this world?

Jesus and his disciples were not of this world though only in the Spiritual sense at the time Jesus said it, John 17:16.

This world is bound to corruption and so a body that is of it is…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,
In what way would TICKLING be involved in what Jesus was trying to prove to Thomas?

This is a better point though it misses my actual point. My point being that you can put your finger, or anything else, into a person’s side without penetrating their body.

Nick,

Hi KW,
So you resort to earthly examples to try to explain putting a HAND INTO A HUMAN SIDE?
Is the world your foundation?

You’re words sound absurd.

I am showing you how language is used and you respond with a line of nonsense because it challenges your dearly held interpretation of what first Thomas then Jesus said. It is the desires…[Read more]

Nick,

he dug his fingers into her side, tickling her.

It does not mean the woman has a wound or an entry of any type. The context is necessary to determine if the body has been entered. In order to say it means Thomas wanted to put his hand inside of Jesus wounds you have to assume Jesus has wounds for him to put his hand into.

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Nick,

Once again.

So according to your understanding the change from a body that could not die to one that could is not evidence that God changed the body?

Nick,

Hi KW,
A changed and imperishable body is the promise.
But you remain mortal?

Why do you avoid answering questions?

You don’t avoid answering quite as many points but avoid them sometimes as well.

It really interferes with good communication.

Are you that insecure in what you believe?

Nick and Ed,

Matthew 13:47-50Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48 which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away. 49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the…

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Nick,

Hi KW,

Why paper over the cracks in your theories?

There is no suggestion God changed the nature of man’s body after the fall.

So the change from a body that could not dies to one that could is not evidence that God changed the body?

Nick,

Hi KW,

Really?

Do you have a natural deficiency there?

I do not know what you are speaking of but considering the lack of context he seems to be an insult on the person. Please try to make yourself more understandable because I hope that was not your intention.

Nick,

Hi GB,

The Spirit will give life to your mortal body.

But you remain mortal?

We hope for an imperishable body

You seem to object to Paul’s of words. He also said the perishable should put on the imperishable.

Did he mean the mortal body wears the immortal body as cloths?

All I believe he is illustrating is the change.

Nick,

Is that written?

It is written that death entered the world through Adam though it came by his sin in Romans 5:12.

2 Peter 1:4 literally speaks of corruption that is in the world through lust though I am not sure it should be interpreted literal.

Nick,

I decided not to add to scripture as I know that a person can put their hands into there side without putting them into a wound. I assume Thomas was not doing it to tickle Jesus. Scripture does not tell us why he wanted to do put his hand in Jesus’ side but it seem it is a reasonable guess that Thomas wanted to feel the mark of the spear…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,
So Adam was not susceptible to death till he died?

Adam was not susceptible to death until he sinned.

Nick,

Hi KW,
Do you find God’s creation flawed?

The present world is not God’s creation it is the effect of humankind’s sin. God is not responsible for the condition of this world. We are. We chose sin as our God. Those that believe will escape this world.

God subjected this world to corruption as a result of humanities sin which is why h…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,
Yes we expected your theological basis to be offered.
But you should let scripture speak without adding tidbits.

If those in Christ never sinned then 1 jn 1 would not need to be written.

You are constantly adding to Scripture as you want Thomas to say hole or wound when he says “into his side” instead. All Scripture states is…[Read more]

Nick,

Scarred?
Are we allowed to make presumptions like you have here?

He still had a hole in his side

There is nothing about there being a hole or even scars in his side. All that is written is Tomas said he would not believe until he put his into the marks on Jesus’ hands and into his side. Even for marks they did not use the word that…[Read more]

Nick,

Is SOUNDS LIKE good enough for you?

Are you saying being buried in dishonor is not a flaw?

Nick,

It is not to do with IMMEDIATE CAUSE but susceptibility

Angels are susceptible to death and Satan and his angels will perish when they are thrown into the fires of Gehenna.

On the other hand Adam and Ever were not susceptible to death before they sinned as they did not earn the wages of sin.

It is the wages of sin that make one…[Read more]