Nick,

Do you think that because he showed his damaged old body to his brothers he must have stayed like that?

That is not true. He showed only the marks from his crusifiction to his brothers. The rest you are adding.

Nick,

I agree with that interpretation but the the part that relates is Paul using two men to express the idea. One man is the outward man and the second man is the inward man.

I attributed Paul’s use to a way of speech and you seem to object.

Nick,

I was asking you what you understand. Your response was not productive.

Gene,

2 Peter 1:5-7New King James Version (NKJV)
Fruitful Growth in the Faith

5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love.

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Nick,

2 Corinthians 4:16Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.

I personally believe it is a way of speech but perhaps you believe different.

Nick,

The last thing I said to you was:

The question is if the idea is there and unless Gene is clearly expressing the idea you cannot test it.

Are you objecting to good communications. Do you prefer to talk in a language your hearer does not understand. What good in that?

Gene,

The definition if intellect by Merriam-Webster online dictionary

1
a : the power of knowing as distinguished from the power to feel and to will : the capacity for knowledge
b : the capacity for rational or intelligent thought especially when highly developed
2
: a person with great intellectual powers

I do not see where your…[Read more]

Nick,

To me they are incomplete humans but Scripture calls the the spirit the inner human and the flesh the outer human. It may also do the same with the soul. The outer human came first and then the inner human came. Paul does this in Romans 7 and again in 2 Corinthians 4.

Nick,

A ghost is part of a human. A ghost is also called a spirit. If you were to call a ghost a human then they would be the man from heaven as they are not made of earth.

I am going by your interpretation and not mine.

I do not think it was a vision but some do because Jesus called it a vision. Peter speaks of it as if it were an actual event.

Nick,

A ghost is part of a human. A ghost is also called a spirit. If you were to call a ghost a human then they would be the man from heaven as they are not made of earth.

I am going by you interpretation and not mine.

I do not think it was a vision but some do because Jesus called it a vision. Peter speaks of it as if it were an actual event.

Nick,

Do you think flesh and blood can inherit the kingdom?

I believe Jesus resurrection is an example of the resurrection of come and he was raised in a flesh and bone body. I believe Jesus is the firstborn of the dead.

Gene,

Could you give a definition from a dictionary for what you mean when you say intellect?

Nick,

Hi KW,

That was addressed to Gene.

The word intellect is not in scripture.

He says he is taught by the Spirit but is this so?

More foolishness as Scripture was not written in English and any English word that you find in Scripture is a word that translators put their to sum up the idea of the word in the original language.

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Nick,

Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.

All that means is you stubbornly hold to your own interpretation of one verse of Scripture even though it contradicts the words of other parts of Scripture. It is not convincing.

Nick,

Is the man from heaven human?

Is Jesus as shown in Rev 19 human?

Is the lamb of God in heaven human?

What guides your definitions?

The word man is a synonym of human.

Revelations is a book that employs a lot of symbolism so it is hard to tell one way or another.

Here is one passage that seem clearer than some.

Revelation…

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Nick,

So when when the witch of Endor raised the prophet was the prophet still human?

I specified living human for a reason but even then Samuel was a ghost, a living soul with no body.

Nick,

Hi KW,

When Moses and Elijah spoke with Jesus on the mountain were they human?

They were as there is nothing written differently. Some say they were just a vision.

Nick,

Hi KW,

Does flesh define a man?

By whose authority?

Why are you inventing a new idea. An idea that is not spoken of in Scripture. Scripture does say “there is one kind of flesh of men” but you are inventing something else. Something that is not written in Scripture.

Nick,

But when it comes to the Holy Spirit you make no such effort and offer us a humanly based idea that spirit is intellect?

If I knew what you mean by “humanly” then I would have a better idea of what you are saying here. As it is I believe your definition is from the flesh nature and therefore not a godly definition.

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Nick,

Hi GB,

So you say.

But I do not think you understand.

Do you have evidence that there is more than one composition of the human body?