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    Nick,

    I am not sure how you mean that but I do know Jesus said “what is born of the Spirit is spirit.”

    The spirit that is born of the Spirit is the one I am calling new and that is not what it is born from.

    The instruction to live according to the Spirit is equivalent to the instruction to put on your new self. The old self lives according…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    Gene, T8, and anyone else that is concerned,

    Those that drawn to Christ by God are drawn because they hunger and thirst for righteousness. If a person hungers and thirst for anything a feast that provides that thing will draw them. God provides the feast, Jesus is the way. It is not about free choice it is about a person’s deepest desires and…[Read more]

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      Don’t purposely misinterpret prophecy.

      Jeremiah 51:39 In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD.

      Not wake means to stay in their graves.

      wakeup.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    T,

    You do not make sense for all men are born in the sin of Adam

    Scripture does not say that and so it seems to be a teaching of men. Do you know why you believe that?

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    Nick,

    Our minds do need a new spirit new does not mean a replacement but it means one that has been renewed as the Spirit of God teaches all things to those that persevere in believing.

    Sometimes it does sound like a replacement as believers are instructed to put off their old self and put on the new self created like God in true righteousness…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    T,

    your scriptures comfirms what i told you ,in short , for no men alive or ever lived can stay alive even if he does not practice sin ,he would stil have to die because of Adam sin ,

    A human that never sinned would not be involved with Adam’s sin as by their own action they show they would not take part in it.

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    Nick,

    As far as it goes that is true.

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    Nick,

    I think you will find that the human spirit does change because Scripture speaks of the renewal of the spirit.

    Ephesians 4:23New English Translation (NET Bible)

    23 to be renewed in the spirit of your mind,

    Psalm 51:10New English Translation (NET Bible)

    10 Create for me a pure heart, O God!
    Renew a resolute spirit within…

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      IF ONE TRULY HAVE THE RENEWAL OF THE MIND;
      HE WOULD truly DWELL IN ZION.
      HE WOULD NOT BE OF BABYLON ANYMORE.
      HE WOULD WALK IN THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST,
      NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF THE WORLD.
      THIS IS NOT EASY TO DO,BRECAUSE THE WORLD WILL
      NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN COMMON WITH HIM.
      HE WOULD BE AS A SPECKLED BIRD,REJECTED BY
      OTHER BIRDS.
      A TRUE CITIZEN OF…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    I think you will find that the human does change because Scripture speaks of the renewal of the spirit.

    Ephesians 4:23New English Translation (NET Bible)

    23 to be renewed in the spirit of your mind,

    Psalm 51:10New English Translation (NET Bible)

    10 Create for me a pure heart, O God!
    Renew a resolute spirit within me!

    Titus…

    [Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    T,

    Jesus did not come to tell us don’t do this or that ,that was the law job ,

    what we could not do for ourselves is free us from the sin of Adam meaning dead ; and return to dust ,

    Jesus came to save us from our own sins not from Adam’s. Adam is the only won that is guilty of his own sin. We did not inherit his guilt as some claim. We d…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    Reborn of water and the Spirit.

    Yes as the believer’s spirit is born of the Spirit and the believer is born of water. The birth of water symbolizes the birth of spirit but is required just like a certain man had to wash in the Pool of Siloam to receive the miracle of site. In that case to the water served to symbolize cleansing.

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    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    Reborn of water and the Spirit.

    Yes and the believers spirit of the Spirit and the believer is born of water. The birth of water symbolizes the birth of spirit but is required just like a certain man had to wash in the Pool of Siloam to receive the miracle of site. In that case to the water served to symbolize cleansing.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    T,

    Jesus said he came to free us from serving sin. He then said anyone who sins is a servant of sin.

    In Romans 6 Paul speaks of those who have been immersed as having been freed from being servants of sin and having the ability to become servants of righteousness. It seems reasonable that a person who does not sin is a servant of…[Read more]

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    Gene,

    kerwin believes we should keep the commandments of God, so did Jesus also. He did not say by works of law (forced compliance) but he meant by the operation of the Spirit of God in us. IMO

    Those who live by the Spirit do the righteous requirements of the Law.

    Those that live by the Law live by human effort and not by power of the…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    obedience to the command to be reborn and to be led by the Spirit

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    To all.

    Is my will free from control.

    Jesus said not as I will but as you will.

    That is a choice he made.

    His choice was to subject his will to God’s so God did not control it already or there would have been no need to subject it.

    On the other side of the issue Jesus said that he came to free those that were servants of sin and anyone that…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    Does God share your opinion of who is godly?

    The whole world is under the power of the evil one.

    His Son and those born into him escape the wrath of God.

    My opinion of the one who is godly is the one that does the will of God. Yes, God agrees.

    That is why Jesus came to set those that believe truly free from servitude to…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    And do you rate the wisdom of men against the wisdom of God??

    vanity vanity all is vanity

    Flesh contributes nothing

    If you are using the clause “wisdom of men” as Scripture does then you mean the wisdom of godless men as godly men use the wisdom of God.

    The whole duty of man is to serve God, all else in vanity.

    A godly…[Read more]

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    Hi KW,

    The Spirit gives wisdom from above while reason is weak human wisdom.

    That is what is taught by some human beings but Scripture does not say that. Scripture does teach us that there are two kinds of wisdom. One wisdom is the fruit of the Spirit and thee other wisdom is the fruit of the flesh. The first is the reason of the sons of…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    Men without the Spirit fall back onto logic when confused.

    That is not written in Scripture.
    Instead it is your hypothesis.
    Sounds like you are falling back on logic.

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    Ed J,

    You do not believe God was able to preserve his word?

    He could of as all things are possible for him but the question is did God preserve his word. Scripture does not answer that question. It does tell us that at the time of Jesus God’s word was not preserved in many places. Only the children of Israel were given the word of all the…[Read more]

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