kerwin replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
T,
No sin was translated from Adam to anyone else as the one that sins is the one that is responsible for that sin. We do suffer the consequences of Adam’s sin as can be seen from the fact we do not live in paradise. Another is that each member of mankind became a slave to sin as a result of Adam’s sin. If we obey all of Jesus’ teaching th…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Does the "Whole Earth" mean the "planet" in scripture? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
t8,
There are various teach of a great flood all over the world. You can look them up in comparative myths. Creation and the first man and first woman doctrines also exist in many areas. The situation is that no scientific evidence beyond certain interpretations of Scripture support the idea. Given that the mountains of the area were cove…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
LU,
Mankind was made in Jehovah’s image and then he fell from grace. The new man is created in his image.
kerwin replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@t8,
3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins year by year.
Is the writer of Hebrews implying that being reminded of your sins year after year is a evil occurrence?
If not, then what do you believe he means?
kerwin replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
T,
My claim is that there is forgiveness under the Law of Moses and essential point of the evidence I presented is “and they will be forgiven”. In other words if they make the sacrifices as the Law commands they will be forgiven their sins. That is what I claimed.
kerwin replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 7 months ago
Gene.
The Valley of Hennon symbolizes a concept but that concept is not the grave. Do not be confused by Anglican translators choice of a word that symbolized their own teaching of the afterlife. Even then you are misinterpreting the word as the Anglicans do not believe the Hell symbolizes what you say it does.
The valley is where Scripture t…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
carmal,
Your words contain a red herring fallacy.
kerwin replied to the topic Does the "Whole Earth" mean the "planet" in scripture? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
Seeking Truth,
The mountains mentioned are rather short mountains and 15 cubits is about 23 feet/8 meters. Mt Arafat is 1200 meters above sea level and adding adding 10 more meters to that would leave some parts of the current world uncovered. Denver, Colorado in the U.S. is about 1609. Even the passage ways through the Himalayas are above th…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
T,
Leviticus 4:20 speaks of such forgiveness. God gives a greater gift under the covenant of Christ.
kerwin replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
LU,
So, do you believe in the pre-existence of the ‘person’ of Jesus since you believe that He is the Spirit of God who existed eternally?
I believe Jesus of Nazareth is a human being and therefore no more preexistant than any other human being.
God was pleased to have his Spirit dwell in Jesus and the God’s Spirit has no beginning or end.
kerwin replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 7 months ago
Gene,
JESUS SAID FEAR GOD, who can destroy “both” body and soul, where? in the grave,
I assume you found some version of Scripture friendly to your teachings. He does not say grave in any way or form. The Hebrew is Gehenna, which does not mean grave.
kerwin replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
LU,
With Jesus Christ you have both the human being Jesus of Nazareth, whom was made of a woman, and the Sonship, which is the Spirit of God and so has been here since eternity. The later is the more important of the two and may be the subject of the passage from Revelations about supremacy, chief, or beginning.
kerwin replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
LU,
Interpreting it to mean beginning as in a sense of time is incorrect. Preeminent, chief, or both would be correct. I already made my conviction about the words “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” A little research in Scripture will find that God called himself the first and last God and the…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
LU,
I apologize for mistakenly saying that ‘chief’ is an acceptable translation. I thought that I had remembered it being among the possibilities but no, if it meant ‘chief’ it would be a different Greek word with the Strong’s number 747 which is a masculine noun. The arche’ in Rev 3:14 is a feminine noun and Strong’s number 746. These are the…
kerwin replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
Nick,
Only at the Jordan was he reborn from above.
As you know I disagree with these words as anyone that does not have the Spirit of God cannot walk by it and Jesus shows he walked by it even in his childhood as he did not sin though tempted as common to human beings.
I was speaking t8 about the fact that the genealogies of Jesus do not say say…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
@t8,
Not sure. Perhaps genealogies deal exclusively with man. Only as a man is he mentioned or alluded to as the starting point in the genealogy. Further, it doesn’t mention God either, possibly for the same reason.
I am convinced as it is his genealogy according to the flesh and God directly created Adam’s flesh while Jesus was formed in Ma…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 7 months ago
LU,
After looking at it I favor chief as the correct translation.
Rev 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.
This is a claim of being unique according to the precedent set in the OT. It is three repetitions of a set that contain only one item. Three is a symbolic number I have heard it is the sy…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic The "ONLY" "TRUE" GOD in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 7 months ago
Gene,
It seems you do not want to answer my question. Let that be your answer and let it be placed on record.
kerwin replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 7 months ago
T,
As you say.
kerwin replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 7 months ago
Gene,
GRACE is ….UNMERITED pardon And favor shown us by GOD THE FATHER,
Everything we are comes from God. Only our rebellion comes does not and it does not merit anything from God. It is therefore impossible for use to do anything to merit grace except do what God created us to do and we cannot do that using human effort. That is why the serva…[Read more]
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