AndrewAD,

Don’t forget Hilary, Sanders, and any other candidate there was or is this year.

Nick,

That is true but it does not say the how.

• He performed miracles as he was carried along by the Spirit.
• He spoke the word of God as he carried along by the Spirit.
• He bore its fruits as he was carried along by the Spirit.

All the prophets spoke and some performed miracles but not bore its fruit as they only looked forward to a time when…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,

Men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. 2 peter 1

The prophets sometimes also expressed the powers of God as with Elijah and Elisha.

But only Jesus Christ and those apostles who shared his Spirit fully expressed the nature of God as shown in the fruits

I agree but that is evidence that God sends his Spirit to do different…[Read more]

Nick,

I do make errors in many ways so perhaps that is not what you meant by your words.

If I wronged you then what did you mean by your post that begins “wrong”?

Nick,

I did not say they were too different Spirits but you imply I did. That makes you wrong not me.

And the same Spirit used him to do all the mighty works of God.

Yes, but it is still true that:

Yes. that is also why being led to the desert by the Spirit is not the same as being led to bear its fruit.

The prophets spoke the word of God as…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,

The law is spiritual.

It is a lamp to the feet of faithful men.

The Spirit of God is close to all men as Acts 17 tells us.

But that is not the same as being baptised in the Spirit and being led from within.

Yes. that is also why being led to the desert by the Spirit is not the same as being led to bear its fruit.

Nick,

You say He gave men an impossible task that required anointing of the Spirit to solve.

No I am not saying God is unfair you are.

God did not command the people under the Old Covenant to have a righteousness like his. Instead he allowed them to sacrifice animals to atone for their sins. ( Leviticus 4:20–35) In short he made allowances.

t8,

If you judge citizens of the U.S. by their fruit then the biggest religious group is those that worship God with their mouth but say their is no God with their hearts.

Nick,

But Jesus was only said to be led by the Spirit after the Jordan. Lk 4

This is a flawed argument as the fact that it is not written that Jesus was tempted by Satan before he was immersed in the Jordon does not mean he was not tempted by Satan previous. Instead it means only that it is not written that he was. In other words you are…[Read more]

Nick,

No, the two covenants do not cover every human being but those outside of them have even less that those within the old. I do not remember Paul covering the difference between either of them and those outside of them except a few of the Patriarchs.

I agree that Jesus was born with the same lust other men grapple with.

The only tool…[Read more]

Nick,

It is sin in us that is our enemy which is why it is written that the flesh is in conflict with the Spirit. (Galatians 5:17) Under the Law, which is to say the old covenant human beings to not have the tool that needed to win that conflict for the Law existed to teach us what sin is not to overcome it. (Galatians 3:24) That knowledge…[Read more]

KW,

I apply them to all human beings because Paul is teaching those that have received the Spirit about the difference between the old and new covenants. That difference is the same for those that have entered the new covenant and those that have not.

Nick,

I mention that in both in my last post and in one earlier.

Paul’s words are written to those that have received the Spirit …

Nick,

Your objection are based on the fact that Paul’s words disagrees with your words which makes your words wrong.

Paul’s words are written to those that have received the Spirit teaching them of the difference between the old covenant and the new less they fall back on the old which is passing away.

You are implying that there is no need…[Read more]

Nick,

Why are you avoiding answering my question?

Nick,

You avoided my question.

Scripture is not in conflict with itself but your conclusions are. You will not find a passage that disagrees with the others as long as you interpret it truly.

Scripture teaches us that those that walk according to the Spirit fulfill the Law (Galatians 5:22-23 and Romans 13:8) and so no Law applies to them…[Read more]

Nick,

You are still avoiding answering my question.

This will be the third time I have asked it.

Do you believe the words “made under the Law” mean that sin had dominion over Jesus when he was formed in his mother’s womb?

Nick,

They are written to those that have received the Spirit but they address all humans in some way.

To those that have not received the grace that Paul speaks of they are the promise of that grace.

You though choose to claim Jesus both received and did not receive that grace.

It is admitting that you words are in conflict with one another…[Read more]

Nick,

Do you still believe that grace is insufficient?

You either fail to believe what is written or do not understand it because this is an absurd question given what is written.

This is because with one side of your mouth you claim Jesus lived under the Law and with other that he was under grace but Paul writes that the two are in conflict.…[Read more]

Nick,

I know the Law is ineffectual; made so by the fact sin is in each and every mortal human being.

Paul being carried along by the Spirit said so and therefore it is for God does not lie.