AndrewAD,

John 8:58 mixes a present tense with a past tense in a pattern that doesn’t sound like English.

In one translation it is “I am before Abraham was”

I been looking and I can find no example in English where a statement like that is revealed to be good English.

DavidH,

You are prejudiced because you are afraid to test the spirit of your teaching.   I have tested it and it has the spirit of confusion and God is not a God of confusion.  If you believed Jesus then you would believe that line up on line Scripture supports itself.  You would not believe Jesus is God because you would be confident that God…[Read more]

Andrew,

I do address single points as I find it easier.

You said.

In Jn8:58 when he says before Abraham was I was or am,he’s plainly claiming to be greater than Abraham and giving himself a divine status whether or not one thinks he’s calling himself God-the I AM of Exodus.

God doe tell Moses to call him “I am” when he speaks with the Isr…[Read more]

AndrewAD,

Yes when Jesus answered”I am” in response to his own question of “whom do you seek?” in Jn18:5,6 it was affirmative of Jesus the Nazarene.But why should they draw back and fall to the ground over that? unless Jesus was a divine being, which is the main point of St.John’s gospel that Jesus is the Son of God.

That is speculation based on…[Read more]

Nick,

I forgot to go over it to make sure my words were typed and not just going through by head.  I see if I can fix it.  Thank you.

Gene,

Jesus was alive even as he laid in his grave but his body was not.  He was resting in Paradise while he waited for the resurrection of his body.  He was with Abraham, Isaac, and the thief who were all resting in Sheol as God is their God.  If they were dead then God would not be their God.

Gene,

God is the one that acts as if people are alive after their body dies as he is the one that stated I am the God of Abraham and Isaac even as their bodies lie in where they were interned.  So either you believe 1) God is the God of the dead, 2) God lied, or 3) Abraham and Isaac were alive as God spoke to Moses.  My choice is #3.

Gene,

God is the word that acts as if people are alive after their body dies as he is the one that stated I am the God of Abraham and Isaac even as their bodies lie in where they were interned.  So either you believe 1) God is the God of the dead, 2) God lied, or 3) Abraham and Isaac were alive as God spoke to Moses.  My choice is #3.

Nick,

I see your point.

Nick,

The creation was done by the Spirit of God.

good point

DavidL,

If that is where I think it is then it is speaking of the Word of God that is in Jesus as it is addressing a time after the Word has took on the character of flesh.  That is what make Jesus the Son of God.

DavidL

Yes, don’t you know what the Scriptures say – “He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.”

Men still love darkness rather than light.

Who taught you that passage is speaking of Jesus and not of the very word that comes out of the mouth of God.  Do you not read that all things were created…[Read more]

Gene,

There is no sin where there is no law because you cannot be a lawbreaker without a law to break.  The fruit of the flesh may still exist but it is not called sin.  The Law reveals sin for what it is.

On the flip side if no one sins then there is no need for the law as everyone does by nature what would be written in the law.

Neither i…[Read more]

Nick,

I am not sure where you are coming from as I did say “I do not say the soul is immortal since Jesus states it is destroyed along with the body in Gehenna”.

That agrees with your quote of Jesus.

Gene,

ACTS 2.26….Therefore my heart rejoice,and my tongue was glad; MOREOVER also MY FLESH SHALL REST IN HOPE: BECAUSE THOU WILL NOT LEAVE “MY SOUL” IN HELL, NEITHER WILL YOU SUFFER YOUR HOLY ONE TO SEE CORUPTION. 29, MEN AND BRETHERN let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both “DEAD” AND BURIED and his sepulchre is with u…

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Gene,

ACTS 2.26….Therefore my heart rejoice,and my tongue was glad; MOREOVER also MY FLESH SHALL REST IN HOPE: BECAUSE THOU WILL NOT LEAVE “MY SOUL” IN HELL, NEITHER WILL YOU SUFFER YOUR HOLY ONE TO SEE CORUPTION. 29, MEN AND BRETHERN let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both “DEAD” AND BURIED and his sepulchre is with u…

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Gene,

I do not say the soul is immortal since Jesus states it is destroyed along with the body in Gehenna.    I instead claim that human beings do not destroy it as they destroy the body.  According to you a bullet that kills a destroys both their body and soul.  That claim of yours is false.

Gene,

I do not say the soul is immortal since Jesus states it is destroyed along with the body in Gehenna.    I instead claim that human beings do know destroy it as they destroy the body.  According to you a bullet that kills a destroys both their body and soul.  That claim of yours is false.

Gene,

You believe in the imortality of the SOUL, CLAIMING IT IS STILL ALIVE AFTER THE BODIY DIES. I HAVE PRODUCED SCRIPTURES THAT SAY THERE IS NO THOUGHT PROCESS AFTER A PERSON DIES, HE IS COMPLETELY UNCOUNCIOUS IN A STATE BEING DEAD, AND WOULD REMAIN THAT WAY FOREVER IF HE IS NOT RESURECTED BACK TO LIFE FROM THE GRAVE.

When I sleep I am not dead.…[Read more]

DavidH,

The AV of the KJV is not the closest to Koine Greek though it is based on a different text group than most modern versions. I does word some things closer to the original but those things are often harder to understand because we do not speak that version of English anymore.

I use the AV of the KJV despite my knowledge it has some…[Read more]