Nick,

I am unmarried but the phrase “take a wife” does mean get married. The English idiom may actually have originated in the same phrase from Scripture as the understanding of the Bible has a large influence on the English language.

According to dictionary.com the phrase means.

to receive or accept into a relationship with oneself: to take…

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Gene,

The conversation has wandered away from the initial topic but I have nothing new to add to it and Nick does not seem to know Scripture enough to add any other insights.

The current conversation sounds rather absurd but perhaps Nick is attempting to accept Scripture does not agree with the traditions he has embraced.

Nick,

So you claim that because the literal word marriage is not in Scripture earlier the later chapters of Genesis thus their was no marriages even though the phrase “took a wife” means marriage and that does exist.

Nick,

The Scripture Jesus addresses comes from Deuteronomy 25:5 and it was a practice of Judah even before the Law of Moses. See Genesis 38:8.

Nick,

I see you are playing word games.

I already quoted a passage of Scripture from the OT where some translations use the word marriage. So why do you choose to toss their choice out?

Genesis 34:9Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

9 And make ye marriages with us, and give your daughters unto us, and take our daughters unto you.

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Nick,

A fair number of those I named are not Jews but Jesus is Jew. The Spirit does not change bloodlines it changes the heart. Paul was not speaking of religion as the Greeks were no longer pagans while the Jews still worshiped the one true God they were taught to worship from their youth. It is the Greeks that converted to worship God as the…[Read more]

Nick,

The bible is written in English. You know Paul taught us it is better a few words with understanding than multitude that are understood.

The bottom line is the phrase “they took wives of them” means they married the women of the group them just like Abraham did not want Isaac to marry a woman of thee Canaanites.

Nick,

As I said before I have trouble believing you are sincere on this matter.

You clearly do not believe Scripture or the meaning of the words in English.

I have already presented proof and you have given no reason except empty talk for not believing.

dictionary.com

Idioms
4.
take to wife, to marry (a particular woman):
He took an…

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Nick,

It is wise to follow the religion of the one true which is the religion practiced by Moses, Joshua, David, and the Prophets.

Were the Jews that had Jesus crucified following that religion in killing the Messiah they claimed to await instead of believing in him?

Was Paul in his zeal following that religion when he pursued the followers…[Read more]

Nick,

I offer because they are paraphrases of one another.

Nick,

Deuteronomy 22:13

King James Bible
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her,

Holman Christian Standard Bible
If a man marries a woman, has sexual relations with her, and comes to hate her,

Nick,

They most likely had such ceremonies even though they are not recorded.

Rebekah and Issac were married even though God chose not to put the ceremony in Scripture. All I know when he states someone took a wife it means he got married.

Nick,

It is a definition. Look in a dictionary or just look at Gen. 24:3 and see that is what it means.

I have a difficult time believing you are not already aware of this.

Nick,

Hi KW,

To MARRY is not the same as to take to wife.

The word wife means married woman.

Yes it does mean marriage as you can see in this example and other passages of Scripture.

Genesis 24:3Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

3 and I will make thee swear by the Lord, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt…

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Gene,

You are right though there are many covenants that are in scriptures and all are not the same. You must also remember that PAUL said he counted all that as dung that he might win Christ.
Phil 3-8-11

The righteousness under the Law of Moses and any other covenant but that of Jesus Christ depended on human effort and forgiveness of sins…[Read more]

Nick,

Genesis 6 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

I agree that is no evidence of angels taking wife from…[Read more]

Nick,

None of the spirits I know of are recorded as either eating with men or being touched with them. The evil spirits all possessed human beings or at became a lie in the mouth of false prophets. One is mentioned in Job though some translators say it is wind though it later seems to speak.

Job 4:15

King James Bible
Then a spirit passed…

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Nick,

I do not believe Gen 6 is speaking about fallen angels.

Jesus teaches us that angels neither marry or are given in marriage and those who claim that Gen 6 is speaking about fallen angels claim that God changed the law after the fall of angels so that they are no longer are able to marry or be given in marriage. There is no word of such…[Read more]

Nick,

I am sure you understand David is the father according to the flesh as that is what I quoted from Scripture so why the objection?

DavidH,

Jesus Christ did not come to bring peace he came to bring the sword. He always strove to “bring down” the Pharisees and Sadducees. He was even known to offend some. (Matthew 15:12) His words were true and we are to learn from him and not the world or our culture.