Nick,

So reason is a weak tool for the worldly?

Did you read that in the bible?

I have never seen it written.

God has no reason to tell those that live by the Spirit those words as they have already reasoned with him and received the promise of the Holy Spirit.

The Spirit teaches those that receive the Spirit and reason is one of its tools.…[Read more]

DavidL,

If the true Church is founded upon the unmovable revelation of Jesus Christ – then why do you attempt to build doctrines on a foundation of logic…???

Jesus uses logical reasoning in a number of places. It is a common way he chose to teach,

Matthew 22:41-45Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

41 While the Pharisees were g…

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Nick,

Hi KW,

Do you have any supporting verses to show this verse is important for all?

Logic does not fit with spiritual words.

I do not believe that God is telling everyone there ways are not his ways and their thoughts are not his thoughts as that would contradict the words of the New Testament. It did apply to those under the Law for…[Read more]

DavidL,

I trust God for understanding as all human beings are liars. The greatest obstacle I have is that I too am a liar according to the flesh nature. God word does not agree with what my flesh nature wants to hear. It appeals to that part that hungers and thirsts to be like him in true righteousness and holiness. That part reject the…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi davidl,

By OBVIOUS do you mean it is revealed?

Or just a LOGICAL DEDUCTION

For us there is ONE GOD.

It means it is his opinion which he believes is revealed to him because it certainly isn’t certainly isn’t obtained by logical reasoning from what is written. Please note that he did not even try to give evidence to support his…[Read more]

David,

You words are full of confusion as you three Gods are one God but God is not a God of confusion.

You choose to believe a broken doctrine and yet Jesus told us God’s doctrine is not broken.

DavidL,

I claim that the Hebrew people are gods because they received the Word of God but that does not mean that they are the one true God as god is merely a word that has many different meanings.

Nevertheless, I believe Jesus Christ is the human being in whom God lives through the Spirit and the way for all others to have the Spirit dwell in them.

t8,

Genesis 1 says that male and female were both made in the image and likeness of God.

David,

God knows more than us and he chooses when even a sparrow will fall.

As a human being I may even attempt to defend Cain when he came up for judgement but then I am not all knowing nor am I unable to be tempted by evil, much less sin.

It is written that believers are the temple of the Living God so it follow that God is in their flesh.

Nick,

Hi KW,

The importance of the verse is to know about the level of forgiveness from God available in Christ.

Reason is just a route to this simple understanding.

Are you disagreeing with God because he calls on all to reason with him?

In order to reason with him a individual must believe what he says.

Mario,

Jewish Christian groups did not necessary follow the Trinity as early as the First Century. The Ebionites were a group accused of being zealous for the Law and who did not credit Jesus with divinity. There is also the Nazarenes who may have viewed Jesus as divine but little is known either group. They were heavily persecuted under the…[Read more]

David,

God is not a controlling God. If God wanted to make Cain a puppet then he could have but instead he chose to let Cain’s heart be tested. He could have chosen for Abel to return to life but instead he chose that Abel’s mortal life was over and his life would only return on Judgement Day.

Since we are told that Abel is righteous he will…[Read more]

DavidL

Kerwin

If we are not to take these words of Jesus in a very literal sense (as I believe the Spirit would show us), but instead delegate some lesser meaning to them to suit your own ideas… then I would challenge you to show me any other man in the history of the Church who could say, or even dare to say, these very same words of Christ –…

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David,

DavidL

Kerwin

If we are not to take these words of Jesus in a very literal sense (as I believe the Spirit would show us), but instead delegate some lesser meaning to them to suit your own ideas… then I would challenge you to show me any other man in the history of the Church who could say, or even dare to say, these very same words o…

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DavidL,

Revelation is not the rock upon which Jesus built his church. It was not Peter either. Humble yourself and list to the Lord and then try again.

DavidL.

A Spiritual man sees Isaiah 55:8 as meaning God thinks according to the Spirit while man thinks according to the flesh; so put away the thoughts of man and embrace a mind like Christ.

About reason God said:

Isaiah 1:18Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

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Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord:
though your sins be…

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David,
John the Baptist did no miracles and yet he was the Jesus’ herald.

David,
John the Baptist did no miracles and yet he was the one Jesus’ herald.

Nick,

I am aware of that though most are just obstacles to the truth thrown up by those that lacked knowledge of the truth. Sometimes they were even attempting to protect the laity from making mistakes based on lack of knowledge. The KJV use obsolete and archaic language that many assume are religious terms and do not know the actual meaning of them.