Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 23 2005,21:05)Hi kenrch, Scripture says”Jesus Christ came in the flesh” So he was Jesus Christ before he came surely?Nick,Please give me the scriptures that say the Word was flesh in heaven. I know scriptures that say the word became flesh. I see and understand scriptures that say if anyone did not believe that the Word…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 23 2005,07:50)Diversion david? Buy your own.There was no Jesus before the Word. It was only after the Word became flesh that Jesus existed. There was no Michael or angels. The Word is the beginning of all creation. God speaks things into existance and of course uses the Word to do it. The Word became Jesus and dwelt…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 22 2005,03:30)Quote (liljon @ Nov. 22 2005,17:04)Hebrews 1:3 The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being,…He is the exact image not a lesser imageLijon, He is still the image of God. No matter how much Christ reflects God, he is God's image and not God himself. He is like God and he is godly.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 21 2005,04:11)Hi  kenrch, “The Word is not of itself but of God”.True but so is every being and everything of God.The Word was with God so was a separate being from God.The Son has life in himself.We are all originally sons of God through Adam. God no longer recognises that family link.That is why you must be born…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 19 2005,11:41)The reason why we shouldn't marry relatives is that the human genepool contains curses that are released in coded DNA. The likelyhood of such traits are multiplied when 2 people with similar DNA have children.Back with Adam and Eve, the genepool was perfect. Sin then entered the human race, but even then the genepool…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 20 2005,08:29)I have drawn my conclusion that God is uncreated from the reading the Bible and applying simple logic (we are commanded to love God with our mind – remember?). The Bible teaches that “ALL things” were created by God. There must be a first cause, and, in the context of creation, that first cause must be, by…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 19 2005,02:43)Hi N,Jesus was not begotten of the Father until He became flesh.Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.The word begotten here means the “only born”. The word became flesh ……the glory…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 18 2005,04:03)Hi, When you were conceived you did not receive the spirit of your parents. If you had they would have died, as that is what happens when you give up your spirit. You received your own body from their dust and your own spirit inherited in the breath of God. When the Word was begat he had his own spirit from…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 18 2005,00:25)Hi kenrch, What are you on about? You seem very confused. Were those questions or just judgements? Hello?Two beings ? Yes. The original Father and His SonSame spirit? No two beings with their own spirits and wills. “not my will but thine be done””Jesus cried out again in a loud voice, and yielded up His…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 24 2005,23:47)Hi kenrch, Eph 4.30″ And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by who you were sealed for the day of redemption.”So we can act independantly of the abiding Spirit of God in us. So we still have a will and life in ourselves and thus we still have a spirit of our own. Our spirit is not replaced by the Spirit…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 16 2005,02:12)Quote (k4c @ Nov. 15 2005,22:03)Understanding water baptism As we grow in God’s word we will begin to see how in God’s word there is a literal understanding (outward) and a spiritual understanding (inward). We will also begin to see how God uses created things, things that are seen, to help us understand spi…[Read more]

Quote (k4c @ Nov. 15 2005,22:03)Understanding water baptism As we grow in God’s word we will begin to see how in God’s word there is a literal understanding (outward) and a spiritual understanding (inward). We will also begin to see how God uses created things, things that are seen, to help us understand spiritual truths, things that are not see…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 15 2005,06:30)Is Jesus Christ the same person as Michael the archangel?According to the Bible, there are millions of angelic creatures inhabiting the spirit realm. (Daniel 7:9, 10; Revelation 5:11) From beginning to end, the Scriptures make hundreds of references to the angels that remain loyal to God. Yet, only two of these…[Read more]

Quote (k4c @ Nov. 15 2005,00:24)The reason why I believe Michael and Jesus are the same is because there is a huge amount of Scriptural support that teach they are the same. The problem is that the identity of the Son of God is a mystery that only the Father can reveal to those who seek Him for the answer.The answer to the question is so important…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 15 2005,00:50)Quote (MrBob @ Nov. 15 2005,00:48)https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=3;t=399Let's try to keep things in one thread. We really don't need three different threads for one subject. Quite so. I expect t8 will limit them to one.Nick!,No need to ask how you are doing! Welcome back!!! …

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 14 2005,09:20)Jesus Christ is the son of God. Michael is an angel. There are no scriptures that say they are the same person.There are scriptures that give them both similar qualities or titles. Prince is one example.Funny thing is that Trinitarians make the same error in that they see common qualities of God and Jesus and…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 12 2005,23:24)Hi jbl,I think there is actually NO Biblical evidence to support it. Here is one of many refutations of the JW premise that Jesus and the archangel Michael are one and the same:Colossians 1:16For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 12 2005,07:58)Yes. He has been successfully operated on and is recovering well (no need for chemotherapy). He will be back at home early next week.PRAISE GOD FOR THAT! I DON'TBELIEVE IN LUCK, ONLY ANSWERED PRAYER! I believe the surgeon could have closed his eyes and would have been successful! I thank you…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 11 2005,21:45)To asorryman, These kind of desires are natural so it is part of human nature.God gave us these desires so that we would multiply and trying to resist that desire is like trying to give up the desire for food.I am no doctor, but from what I understand, resisting this desire can also have negative consequences such as…[Read more]

Quote (asorryman @ Nov. 09 2005,07:34)thanks that kinda helps, for a while i would pray and ask God to remove the desire form my heart but it never worked. Around that same time i would open up my bible and read how paul wanted God to remove the a thorn from his flesh. I told my pastor this and he said that the thorn was somthing physical that was…[Read more]