Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 13 2007,15:32)Quote WJ,”No offence. But first of all I resent the implication that I follow a mans teaching on this”.I'm sorry if you took my statement to be personal.  “Most” Christians follow their clergy.  Surely this is a true statement just as all denominations have lies covered with truth.What you believe is u…[Read more]

WJ,”No offence. But first of all I resent the implication that I follow a mans teaching on this”.I'm sorry if you took my statement to be personal. “Most” Christians follow their clergy. Surely this is a true statement just as all denominations have lies covered with truth.What you believe is up to the Holy Spirit and you.But let me say that I…[Read more]

WJSorry brother I just don't see it that way.  You said:He is the beginning of all of creation because by him all things were made. “He is the beginning of all creation”  Sure Jesus was the first created I believe that would make Him the beginning of all creation.The definition of Start is BEGIN. To commence. To come into being.”because by Him a…[Read more]

WJ,The word for beginning is “arche”, Which means; 1) beginning, origin2) the person or thing that commences, the first person or thing in a series, the leader3) that by which anything begins to be, the origin, the active cause4) the extremity of a thingIt comes from the word “archomai” which means;1) to be the first to do (anything), to begin2)…[Read more]

Yes Jesus is the beginning and the end. He is the beginning of the creation of God and He is the end of that creation all being in Christ.Rev 3:14 And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.

Quote (Mercy @ Jan. 06 2007,06:51)I think the future New Earth with have animals. It is a restoration before sin. Animals were part of that.Will particular animals (pets) be ressurected?  I have no proof for that and it seems t8 presented some good scripture implying not.God must have thought highly of His animals since animals were His first…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 06 2007,01:40)Quote We are seperated by 2000 years, multiple language barriers, seperate cultures and 2 milleniums filled with deception. Mercy you are right.But the trinitarian view is sweeping the world and people are coming to Jesus and being saved and filled with the Holy Spirit.Acts 5: 38 And now I say unto you,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 05 2007,00:15)Quote Then my friend AND brother you don't believe in the Catholic Trinity.  So is there another doctrine perhaps of one of her daughters that I don't know about?  A different version perhaps of the same doctrine?Just trying to make sense of what exactly you and Oxy do believe.  Because if you and Ox…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ Jan. 04 2007,20:13)The Scripture you quote is correct.  Also there is Mat 1:23  “Behold, the virgin shall conceive in her womb, and will bear a son. And they will call His name Emmanuel,” which being interpreted is, God with us.Also Eph 3:19  and to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge, that you might be filled with all th…[Read more]

There is one other thing I had one Trinity believer (who wasn't catholic) said that if I didn't believe in the Trinty then I wasn't saved. Ooooh what a judge according to a law in my view isn't even in the bible!I believe that God is a Spirit and should be worshiped as such and I believe that Jesus is His only begotten Son that died so that I…[Read more]

If I believe that the Son is God (though God of the New creation) and the Holy Spirit is God and you don't believe they are equal and the Father Is God of ALL then why argue at all lets reason and not quarrel about a doctrine that was made by the Harlot of Rev ch. 17. that you don't even follow.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 04 2007,16:00)Quote The Father gave Jesus all authority.  If Jesus were equal with the Father (and that's what the Trinity doctrine states) then why would the Father have to GIVE anything to Jesus?  Why is Jesus going to give His new kingdon to the Father?kenrch I dont think most Trinitarians believe that the F…[Read more]

Quote (Cult Buster @ Jan. 04 2007,09:35)The Holy Spirit is Yahweh. (God)The Holy Spirit is a Person:        a.    He performs personal actions in association with other persons: Matthew 28:19; Acts 15:28;               Revelation 22:17 – NB The Holy Spirit is a separate person from the Father and Jesus – Matthew               28:19 etc. b.Takes…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ Jan. 04 2007,00:24)Quote (charity @ Jan. 03 2007,21:37)Quote (Oxy @ Jan. 03 2007,08:56)Quote (david @ Jan. 03 2007,08:47)If someone has no clue what the holy spirit is, and cant even defend what they believe, what are the chances they actually have the gift of Gods holy spirit?I suggest all on here who believe the holy spirit is a…[Read more]

Quote (Henoch @ Jan. 03 2007,23:20)Here is what Homosexualiy and the Way to Repentance…http://tasbeha.org/content/hh_books/ordofwom/index.htmlMay God be with you.Why must a person dress in a special code? It is the Spirit that bears witness.Luk 20:46 Beware of the scribes, who desire to walk in long robes, and love salutations in the…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ Jan. 02 2007,19:32)Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 02 2007,13:53)So the Father at least has the full authority to do that.  If Jesus were already equal to the Father then why would His Father have to give Jesus authority.  Then we all know that Jesus gives back that authority to His Father that God will be all in all.So Jesus (God of this new c…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ Jan. 02 2007,04:05)Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 02 2007,01:16)Well Ok Oxy a family of God the Father being in charge.  But that does not agree with the Trinity doctrine, does it ?Hi Kenrch, love you too brother.Actually the Father gave all authority to Jesus, which kinda makes Jesus in charge. Mat 28:18  And Jesus came and spoke to them, s…[Read more]

Hi Oxy how have you been? I hope well I know you love the Lord and I love you!!

Quote (Oxy @ Jan. 02 2007,01:12)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2005,04:39)Hi, Godhead is a uniquely KJV word that seesm to have been adopted by traditional christianity to mean either the trinity or the family of God. Can we look at the context where it is used in the bible?Romans 1.19-20 {New KJV}” because what may be known of God is manifest in…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 01 2007,20:38)Quote Sure before the New creation (you and other Christians) Jesus ran the kingdom for the Father.  That's one reason why Jesus was created Rev. 3:14.  But who appointed Jesus God of this new creation (Heb. 1:8-9)?KenrchRev 3:14 is no proof Jesus is a created being. Look closer and throw away your h…[Read more]