If the flood took place around 2300 BCE, and the earth was covered in water 15 cubits above the highest mountain for 150 days, how did these trees survive? From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methuselah_%28tree%29Methuselah (estimated germination 2832 BC) is a Great Basin Bristlecone Pine (Pinus longaeva) in the White Mountains of California, which…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 31 2008,18:18)The Egyptians, the Greeks, the Chinese, the Druids of Britain, the Polynesians, the Eskimos and Greenlanders, the Africans, the Hindus, and the American Indians—all of these have their Flood stories. The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (Vol. 2, p. 319) states: “Flood stories have been discovered amo…[Read more]

Not necessarily untrue for those who wrote such things. It was likely a legend passed down and the writers were filling in the gaps. Plus, the “world” was much smaller for primitive man. If an area the size of Texas (or even smaller?) flooded, then that might have been their view of the “world”.As more and more scientific and archeological…[Read more]

Saw this recently: Q: “Did all aquatic animals also die in Noah's flood?” A: “No, they suffocated in Noah's ark!”

Gen 7:4 “For after seven more days, I will send rain on the earth forty days and forty nights; and I will blot out from the face of the land every living thing that I have made.” If “every living thing” that was not on the ark was killed, then that means that all of the fish and sea creatures died. That would inlcude amphibians. So why do we have…[Read more]

Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 31 2008,16:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2008,07:56)test all things.Tell me what does this have to do with scriptures? I want to fellowship that is all. If you did not wanted to why did you say in the beginning it was a good idea?  I guess I wasted my $30.00Mrs.,You can try to see if there are other…[Read more]

And what happened to the the land plants of the time? Trees, shrubs, grass…all submerged for 150 days (yeah not 40, just thinking of the rain). None of the plant life could have made it that long.

Quote (david @ Mar. 31 2008,16:23)Quote      If we were to divide all animals into two groups, invertebrates and vertebrates, an estimated 97% of all species would be invertebrates. Invertebrates include animals that lack backbones such as sponges, cnidarians, molluscs, platyhelminths, annelids, arthropods, and insects, to name just a few. Of al…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 31 2008,16:21)Quote Just curious, but if you DON'T believe in evolution, how big would the ark need to be to fit 2 of every unclean animal of the earth as well as 7 of every clean one? kejonn, did you know that all the variety of “dogs” we have today came from one “kind” of animal, the wolf?The “kinds” of animals selected had…[Read more]

From the same link above, there are Reptiles: 7,984 species Birds: 9,000-10,000 speciesMammals: 4,475-5,000 speciesArachnids: 75,500 speciesInsects: 1-30 million+ speciesLeaving several more of the list, I imagine the ark was the size of Texas or Alaska?

From How Many Species Inhabit Our Planet?If we were to divide all animals into two groups, invertebrates and vertebrates, an estimated 97% of all species would be invertebrates. Invertebrates include animals that lack backbones such as sponges, cnidarians, molluscs, platyhelminths, annelids, arthropods, and insects, to name just a few. Of all…[Read more]

Just curious, but if you DON'T believe in evolution, how big would the ark need to be to fit 2 of every unclean animal of the earth as well as 7 of every clean one? With that many animals cooped up together for 40 days, either Noah's family were on 24 hour pooper-scooper patrol or they spent the 40 days retching over the side of the ark.Also, what…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2008,16:05)Hi KJ,Yes his wiles are amazing.So better to stand on the rock of truth.The mists of confusion are a lonely place for some.Hey, did “satan” also go back in time and plant similarities between Jesus and others who came before him? Like virgin birth, death-rebirth cycles, followers believing for salvation, etc.?

David, That post was a hard read. Do you have a source? I know the semitic cultures shared similar flood stories, but I'd be interested in the details of others you mentioned.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2008,15:59)Hi, Yes Satan is well prepared. For every true thing he has ready a falsehood to offer. Poor ignorant men who are not founded on rock must go with the flow.I was waiting for someone to offer this excuse. Yes, “satan”, who seems to be more omniscient than the God of the bible, was able to look ot the future…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 31 2008,15:53)Since this is God's portrayal in the OT, I guess we should discuss that, in relation to gilgamesh.It is the story of the exploits of Gilgamesh, described as being two-thirds god and one-third man, or a demigod. One version of the epic states: “In Uruk he built walls, a great rampart, and the temple of blessed E…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 31 2008,15:46)Quote As you can see, the Noah flood story has elements from BOTH flood stories, both Babylonian! From the Atrahasis version comes loading the boat with animals and an offering when Atrahasis gets off the boat. Also, just as in Gen 8:21, God sees the usefulness of humans.From the Gilgamesh story comes the story of…[Read more]

Quote (Angelswings1976 @ Mar. 31 2008,14:04)Hello everyone, nice to meet you!Ok about me.  I grew up in Massachusetts in a small town.  I lived in a single parent home growing up, so I took over the “mother” responsibilities of caring for my younger sister, cleaning house and cooking. Because of that, I've always wanted nothing more than to be a m…[Read more]

And it seems that those inside Christ can never explain. Oh the irony.

Modern Islam: “Ours is a religion of peace. If you don't believe it, we'll kill you”.Early Christianity: “We serve a religion of love. If you don't believe it, we'll kill you.”God in the OT: “My people are special. If you don't believe that, I'll kill you.”